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May 15, 2008, 10:08 AM
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| | | Taking the Bible literally Why do Christians take the Bible so literal? Some parts are absolutely absurd. There was a well-known Baptist, George Hensley, who took the Bible as the word of God. He thought thay he would be invulnerable to snake bites and poisions This lunatic was constantly in trouble with the law for endangering the idiots that went ot his church. having them touch snakes, etc. Let me fast foward to the ending Hensley died of a snake bite
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Jun 5, 2008, 06:30 AM
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| Sorry about your headache workerbee, was the previous post too long? Was the information in it not making iteasy to follow? Do you take a long time to read? Perhaps your computer monitor is too bright
Might I ask you to explain to me what point there is in posting questions about religion yet not considering what is told to you? I find it fascinating that you and some other non-beleivers are so interested in these conversations yet you have already made up your mind before you ask your question. Whay concern yourself(s) with religious discussion id it is all B.S????
I suspect each and every non-beleiver who does participate wishes to hear the other side, maybe to gain insight, a quick lesson in spirituality? I doubt many beleivers would join a discussion asking about the atheist way of life, yet a question about Jesus pops up (actually it is posted by you) and everyone comes to take a gander.
Maybe you are trying to find what what the proponents of a God speak of, otherwise there has to be a very good explaination because I don't see you often asking questions of lawnmowers just as you don't see me asking a non-beleiver questions about their way of life. | |
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Jun 5, 2008, 07:15 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by workerbee BMI. i had a headache this morning and now i know why, hope you are feeling well. it's good you don't take the Bible literally, that at least we agree on. there are so many religions to pick and chose from, for me that is truth that all religions are BS |
All religions are BS?
Again showing your intellect. Your messages have devolved from simulating reasoned arguments to simply being insulting. | |
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Jun 5, 2008, 08:11 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by BMI I doubt many beleivers would join a discussion asking about the atheist way of life, |
This thread... http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/spiritu...lieve+ how%3F
would disagree with you...
And you even participated in it! | |
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Jun 5, 2008, 08:25 AM
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| The bible is a piece of literary work open to interpretation and highly subjective. Each one of us could read a section of the bible and get something different out of it based on our real world experiences. I find the statement "the bible says..." to be the biggest joke around. What "the bible says" to you might be different then what it says to me.
I am not talking about the 10 commandments....that is different...Not much interpretation in Thou Shall not Steal. | |
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Jun 5, 2008, 09:07 AM
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| Hi Jillean, thanks for pointing that out. However, I did not say all, I said not many. Also, my participation in that forum was not in response to the original question but rather to the questions raised from the thread.
The OP on this thread includes her/his opinion in her actual question. Whats the point? Tell me about Jesus but I don't beleive it anyway. | |
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Jun 5, 2008, 09:11 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by De Maria All religions are BS?
Again showing your intellect. Your messages have devolved from simulating reasoned arguments to simply being insulting. |
Serious question... What would YOU call all the other religions that are not your own? If not BS, then wouldn't you at least say (perhaps in a more genteel way), that they are unsubstantiated and untrue?
I am not trying to be argumentative or rude in any way, but I never understood how someone of a particular faith can take such exception to those who are skeptical of all faiths. You know as much as anyone, what it's like not to believe in a particular faith. | |
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Jun 5, 2008, 09:39 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by lobrobster Serious question... What would YOU call all the other religions that are not your own? |
That depends on which religion you are talking about. I have different opinions about different religions and I think some of them are closer to the truth than others. But I think most of them have some truth. I can't think of any that have none at all, although I suppose there may exist some.
The only time I would say that is in response to anyone insulting my faith. Quote: |
then wouldn't you at least say (perhaps in a more genteel way), that they are unsubstantiated and untrue?
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No. Some religions are very close to the truth. As you know, I'm Catholic. Many of the Eastern Orthodox faiths are very close to the Catholic faith. Lacking only small details to teach the exact same thing.
Whereas, the Protestant faiths are all based on the Bible. Even though I believe some of their interpretations are in error, I can respect them for their obvious faith in Christ.
The Muslims I also respect for their obvious faith in God.
I have a great deal of respect for Hinduism and the Eastern philosophies. The wisdom they expound is frequently profound.
As far as atheists are concerned, since I was once an atheist, I can understand the logic whereby one arrives at the conclusion that God does not exist. However, I now believe my logic then was in error.
Therefore, I think I have too much wood in my eye to belittle atheists. The only reason that I find myself doing so on this forum is because so many atheists on this forum act as though its open season on Christians. Quote: |
I am not trying to be argumentative or rude in any way,
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No problem. Good question. Quote: |
but I never understood how someone of a particular faith can take such exception to those who are skeptical of all faiths.
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Probably just a lack of respect for humanity in general. If you study Catholicism, you'll see that the Church teaches respect for people of all faiths. That doesn't mean we are taught that they are all correct. For some reason, many people confuse respect with acquiescence. That just means that everybody has the God given freedom to follow their conscience. Quote: |
You know as much as anyone, what it's like not to believe in a particular faith.
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I hope I've explained myself thoroughly above. If I've missed anything, ask me again.
Sincerely,
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Jun 5, 2008, 09:40 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by BMI Hi Jillean, thanks for pointing that out. However, I did not say all, I said not many. Also, my participation in that forum was not in response to the original question but rather to the questions raised from the thread.
The OP on this thread includes her/his opinion in her actual question. Whats the point? Tell me about Jesus but I don't beleive it anyway. |
If you look through that thread, you'll find many people of faith participated. It ended up being shut down because of a person of faith and a person of no faith, actually. Your reason for participating in that thread doesn't really matter; you participated. But, while we're on it... your first post contained your thoughts as to why a person is an atheist.
Moving on... I too, questioned the purpose of this thread being started; see my post #26 on page three. But the actual question is, "Why do Christians take the bible so literal?" It's not, "Tell me about Jesus" or "Tell me about your religion", it's "Tell me why you hold this book to be the literal truth?" Can't you tell someone about your beliefs without expecting them to accept them? I'm not saying this thread has been full of respect for other's opinions, but we are all entitled to our opinions. It is, after all, an interesting question as to why people take the bible as an absolute literal piece of work, since not all Christians do the same. | |
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Jun 5, 2008, 09:56 AM
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| Bmi, thanks for your concern, at least you have not lost any scarcasm, very good. What's the point of going into detail you have made up yourmind. I think ignorance and religion go hand in hand , you knwo like those natives, how they believe in there silly supersitions\much like Christianity. Same thing as far as I am concerned. If you don'ttake the Bible literally you can pick parts you like and discard the rest. Besides i said all i have too.
DeMaria, you spend way too much time being insulted when none was intended. If you want to stay on this forum you might consider growing a thicker skin.
Anyway that's what i think | |
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Jun 5, 2008, 09:58 AM
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| I'm gonna take you re-reading my posts as a compliment, intended or not:P
I participated in defence and my thoughts on atheism are different than writing why atheism is so stupid, like some include in their posts. Re-read workerbee's original question, its much more causing a stir than simply asking a question. I doubt many ask a question hoping for a sincere, informative answer when written like that, like he/she knows the answer beforehand. I am also not intending to make others beleive what I do but rather defending my position.
You cannot go around saying you think this is all B.S and be rude about it OR post "facts" that are not factual either. If these "opinions" were posted in another forum they would be met with all kinds of opposition. I don't see the difference here when people make comments that are of this nature.
In response to opinion's. There is a line between your opinions and being offensive to someone's religion. Depicting God as a cartoon with a thunder bolt is not appropriate and very offensive. | |
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