I'm just curious how many intelligent Christians would ever consider supporting an atheist for US president. What about other public offices, such as the senate? Would credentials matter? Or would a candidate's lack of faith in a supreme being preclude you voting for him/her regardless of qualifications? Thanks.

Skell

No. Religion isnt a factor to me. I was merely responding to galveston's response regarding atheists.

jillianleab

I think an atheist president might be the best thing for this country but it would have to be the right person. Think about it - by being an atheist, the president would not be concerned with making a decision that goes against the church, but rather would make his/her decisions in the best interest of the people and the country. By removing religion, decisions and policies are made on merit, usefulness and evidence instead of emotion. It's much more objective. It takes out any and all legislation made on the basis of "Because the bible says so", which, considering we don't all follow the bible, seems (to me) to be more fair. It levels the playing field, so to speak.

NeedKarma

Atheism isn't about oppressing other religions. That's dictatorship/fascism. An atheist doesn't give two poops what religion you practice, he just doesn't believe there is a god.

Donna Mae

Exactly! If an atheist was president, that's what he/she would do, try to remove religion.
Christians would probably end up in concentration camps!

jillianleab

Oh bull.

And excuse me, but I don't appreciate you adding in "By removing religion" to the bottom of my post and thus taking it out of context.

Religion doesn't belong in the government, but that's not to say the people being governed can't freely and openly practice their respective religion.

Atheists don't hate religion, and most don't hate Christians. The situation you've imagined is ridiculous and an insult. You apparently know nothing about atheists or the general opinions atheists have on freedoms and society.

I think Christians really really don't believe in god but are too afraid to admit it! See how rude that is?

Quit fearmongering and trying to pick a fight. It's rude.

Donna Mae

Read, "I think I've got it figured out." Posted by Michaelb, in Religious Discussions.

I hope I would never make fun of and downgrade any of the atheist on there, like you all did by making fun of God and Christians. Seems like you all had a lot of fun at God's and Christians expense. Now, how rude is that?

jillianleab

I did read that thread, and I also read the post where he explained why he started that thread. It wasn't to make fun of Christians or god, it was to illustrate a point. If you take issue with a thread that someone else (not me) started, perhaps you should bring it up to them and leave me out of it.

And perhaps you don't realize that you denigrated atheists on this very board when you stated if an atheist were president, all Christians would be in concentration camps. You equated us with Nazis - I don't think it's possible to be more rude than that.

michealb

I'd like to point out as the supreme being of my own religion, I am not an atheist.

How dare I try to spark a discussion from a different point of view. The shame I have brought to a clan of atheists. I should have known that it is rude on a general knowledge and opinion website to even speak of the possibility of a different god. Perhaps you should burn me at the stake or have your god send bears to eat my children or maybe send the spanish inquisition after me. That would teach me to exorcise my right to free speech.


Atheist president has my vote if he agrees with me on issues of course.

Donna Mae

Jillianleab--I do apologize if I was rude, but I do have a right to my own opinions, just as you do. And to be precise I did not say "all Christians would be in concentration camps." I said they would probably end up there. That is my opinion.

And I also did not say that Michaelb started the thread to make fun of God or Christians, it was the ones answering who seem to think there is nothing wrong with making fun of God, and I think that is rude.

Michaelb- I must point out this is not directed at you, just to some of the comments on your thread. Sorry.

If a Christian doesn't stand up for Jesus and other Christians, who will. I'm sure from what I have been reading, it won't be Atheists.

Just a few comments I have read:
-The life of Jesus is a fairy tale like Cinderella.
-...your wasting time worshiping something that doesn't exist.
-...what I know about God, HE DOESN'T EXIST.
-...religious whackos
-I knew the Bible was just rubbish.
-It's all brainwashing.

Now I think this is all very rude.

Some people on here are asking 'real' questions about God and Christ, and when they are met with mean spirited answers like these, I get a little angry. I think all Christians have a right to get angry when atheist come to forums about Christianity, and do there best to turn these people away from God.

That's rude!

jillianleab

I never said you couldn't have your opinions, but there are ways of expressing your opinion without being rude and inflammatory. You've still equated atheists with Nazis - the pinnacle of rudeness. If you truely, honestly believe atheists would put theists in concentration camps if they were in power, I don't know what to say other than I feel you are wrong. I don't know a single atheist who would do such a thing or violate someone's rights in that way. But I do know of a former leader of the US who is a Christian who thinks atheists should not be citizens:

No, I don't know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God -- George Bush Sr.

Now who is devaluing who?


Of course it won't be atheists - do many (or any) Christians stand up for atheists? Or Jews? Or Muslims?


Now that this board has started a "Religious Discussions" area, where controversial subjects may be discussed, I try to stay out of the Christianity forum (and I think I've been successful in doing so). I agree with you, it's not right for someone to post anti-Christian messages when someone is asking a "real" question about god, and there is nothing wrong with you standing up for what you believe in. But there is something wrong with equating a group of people with perhaps the most evil of all groups - Nazis, and doing so because you clearly don't understand much about atheism. You might want to read this thread: http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/spiritu...tml#post517300 to gain a better understanding of how most atheists believe and conduct themselves. I hope after reading it you will change your opinion that we would condemn theists to concentration camps.