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Old Feb 14, 2006, 03:26 PM
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Confused about religion

I have no religion yet and I am 15. My parents decided when i was born to let me pick my own religion but I cant decide. Is it possible for me to go to hell because I dont have a religion? I beleive in god and everything but it seems everytime I start to learn something about a religion it either scares me or I disagree with something. I feel so confused.


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algae agrees: If you think of how little people knew about the world and universe as a whole when religions began, you have to think who are they to dictate to me how to live my life and what to believe in. They had no clue.
 
     

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Old Mar 8, 2006, 08:23 PM   #51  
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I think animeluver06 left 3 wks. ago. I now we are up to at least Junior stage?

Orange: I must quote you. "I personally have been turned off by what a lot of people who claim to be Christians do."
First I would like to know what that is b/c perhaps your knowledge of impressionable Christian people was not available to you thus far. Christians have bad habits & bondages sometimes just like everyone else. It doesnt make them any less loved by God. When one is born again, God deposits in one's spirit a seed of His glory that is intended to grow and mature throughout their Christian walk.( Example1.- cursing) I'm convicted in my spirit down to saying," Stop cussing!
Now there are perhaps many "carnal" Christians. That is the 2nd level which is a stage up from someone whois at level 1- the basic title of Christian b/c he was born one & has just believed in God for yrs., perhaps forgot about Him at times, but at this stage they are only Christians & not born again into Jesus.
At the carnal Christian level, level 2, one is washed by the blood of Jesus & all of his sin is erased by God, Jesus,& the Holy Spirit b/c God sent Jesus as the great Intercessor for us to pay the penalty for man's sin, & to save us from further sin. Now at this level a person is saved & he starts anew. God tells us that our past sins are erased from His memory. If this person devotes himself to mature in the Spirit he will come under conviction at this time to be sanctified & God will tell him to keep reading His Word regularly & before long this person may come under conviction in their spirit to overcome bondages & such of the flesh. If this person only stays a carnal Christian, by not reading the Bible or attending church, then this person does not grow in the Holy Spirit . Although he has salvation, he misses out on the abundant life do to lack of knowledge .
& he suffers the consequences still b/c he is unaware of what God wants from his people.
At the most desirable level is the Born-again Christian who makes an effort to inquire what the Lord would have him do, & how to be a good "saint" for God's Glory. At this stage it gets better.
Now man is made up of 1) spirit 2) soul<which includes the mind, will, & emotions> 3) the body or the flesh.
Before we are born again, our house is ruled by "self" & is considered dead spirit. When we ask that Jesus come into our lives to be Lord of our lives, we attest verbally*to God that we believe
everything about Jesus's sacrifice.
Now the man that housed the dead spirit with self, this becomes replaced with an alive spirit, the born again spirit which is no longer controlled by self . Jesus replaces the self spirit. And note: Man's spirit can be only 3 things. Jesus-born again spirit;Self-dead spirit; or Satan-dead spirit.
Now we even are given the power unto ourselves & others to do good works b/c God tells us in His Book that this is in His plan. The spirit of a person is that eternal part of us that will continue on beyond the termination of our body's life( Ecclesiastes 12:7) The spirit stands for the highest elements of man by which we comprehend spiritual truths. Our spirit is the most powerful part of our being. It is the part that deals with right & wrong behavior.

When I was young Religion scared me b/c I would see maybe at the Port Authority in N.Y.C. in their restrooms, or actually in many public restrooms& trains I'd see some Jesus FANATIC doing writings & grafitti what seemed like crazy to me.

I think those images plus any fanatics I saw turned me off to the real Jesus.

I think the only way to be sure to get that born again spirit is to have a heart(which is considered where the spirit is housed) that is ready, willing, & able & humble to learn & start understanding the Lord. To go to a church & feel the anointing of the brothers ( & srs.) when they lay hands upon you for healing or even to get rid of the spirit of rejection or lust or anger, or withcraft. It is then when they are standing in prayer that one can feel the anointing as one nearly drops to the ground. I always was afraid I wouldn't be caught so I had to control a lot of that power.
And to someone's question about how do I know the Bible was given by inspiration of God.? Because I heard the truths from a respected Theologian that I follow daily through his Programs. How he describes the history of the bible throughout the age, & I believe it. I trust what this Reverend says, & I'm just going to take his word for it. God told the Prophets & the Apostles what to speak & what to write.

He gives me beauty for ashes;
strength for fear;
gladness for mourning;
peace for despair.

love & peace
 
 
     
 
 
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Look at it this way. If you are turned off by what Christians do, are you not also turned off by what others in all walks of life do?
Life is full of turn offs and turn ons in many aspects thereof.
If a person is going to not become a Christian because of what some Chrisitians do think of all the great many things a person can not become because of what some people in all those great many things do.
Peace and kindness,
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If you are turned off by what Christians do, are you not also turned off by what others in all walks of life do?
If you do not like broccoli then you must also not like all other vegetables. See how asinine that thinking is? No Fred, what bothers people isn't the fact that some people are Christians (or any religion or sect or denomination), what bothers people is the constant preaching and attempts at conversion and being told that what they believe is essentially wrong. No one here is trying to convert you so please don't do it to others. It's the same reason why people are annoyed at the mormons going door to door. Take the lead from your peers such as Rickj or Fr.Chuck who are devout in what they believe in but understand that one's beliefs are of a personal nature.

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Irulan agrees: It is as you say the 'forcing down one's throat' that is most distasteful.
 
 
     
 
 
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i totally agree with u i came from the stand point of believing in the word of God(THE BIBLE) when it comes to believing in heaven and hell. when i said believing in Jesus i'm merely talking about the bases of being a believer. next u need to be spiritually feed and that is from studing the word of God and teachings. i must put this out there everything u hear is not true some scriputures are taking out of context purposely,accidentally, etc. thats why u need to know the WORD. BIBLE sitting on the shelf,riding around in the car, no power.
 
 
     
 
 
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This is essentially repeating what I have said before, but it bears repeating especially since its being ignored.

The one point I agree with Chuck on was that religion, any religion, provides a standard and framework of moral and ethical behavior. Most religions adhere to the same basic standard that has come to be known as the Judeo-Christian ethic.

Organized religion provides many things for the faithful. Some provide a punishment/reward system to ensure adherence to bahavioral standards. Others just try to promote the logical goodness. There may be other methods as well.

But what it boils down to is are you a good person. Are you honest, are you generous, do you help people ar abuse them? If you are a good person, then what you believe in terms of organized religion matters not a whit. It doesn't even matter that you believe.

One doesn't "need to be spiritually feed". Some do, some don't. I don't believe I need to be saved, nor do I want someone prostelytizing to me about it. If anyone wants to promote their religion by telling why it gives them comfort, ease, power, etc. That's fine. But don't start telling me that, if I don't follow your religion I will be damned or an bad or whatever.

This thread proves that people with disparate views about religion can discuss them politely and dispassionately. It also proves that some people can't, that they have this missionary complex that makes them feel their's is the only true way and they have to get everyone to see that.

Such people need to take a step back and realize that not everyone beleives that same and that there is nothing wrong in that.

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The bible has the answer you need. If you are interested in discussing this one on one (so as to eliminate all the background noise of those who reject the bible), please go to the website: www.oilandwineministries.org and hit the contact us button to send me an email. I will share what the bible says and you can either accept, reject, or question it.

Blessings,

Phil Debenham

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Irulan disagrees: I dont agree, the bible may have answers for you but not for a confused 15 year old.
 
 
     
 
 
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i beleive that religion is something made up so that people feel better about their delusions.
if you beleive in god then you beleive in a god that you and only you know about because if you beleive in religion then you beleive in somoene else's god
the only benefit of religion is organization and churches and places to worship
if you beleive that your god wants you to worship in a specific way then chose the religion that fits that style of worship

im taking a psych class so the other day i was wondering:
if i were a psychologist and i had a patioent that told me that they beleived in a god that they never saw or heard
how would i see that
i beleive i would treat that as a delusion and medicate the patient

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phildebenham disagrees: You believe in many things you have never heard or seen as well. Are you delusional?
 
 
     
 
 
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Another religion that is gaining popularity: Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Believers around the world.
http://www.venganza.org/

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RickJ agrees: Little bump for the misposted Negative :)
 
 
     
 
 
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Not all delusions need medical treatment. Personally, I tend to agree that belief in god to the extent that some religions do, is a delusion. But its a benign one. It does harm to no one, unless that person tries to force their delusion on others.
 
 
     
 
 
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