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Will the real Islam stand-up?

Is it feasible for Muslims to begin speaking about the good things in the Islamic religion instead of just reacting to another religion's speech about -ALL that they're seeing from Islam is violence in the name of religion ?

Would it be possible for Iran to do the right thing? Help Iraq economically(without Iraq losing democracy) ? Meanwhile, ridding Iraq of the militants? Or are they on the same side really as the militants? Very coomplex. Why doesn't the Ayatollah start telling us all that Islam is a peaceful religion that doesn't encourage violence?

If Iran could refrain from chemical enrichment, help Iraq with security & economy then we can make a bee line out of Iraq!

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Old Sep 15, 2006, 03:46 PM   #2  
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I, as a Christian, can say nothing but good about the "real Islam".
Islam is like Protestant Christianity: There IS no spokesperson for it as a whole...so you have to find the good in it in the man on the street, the guy on a forum, a neighbor in a local Mosque, etc...

...just my 1.5 cents worth.

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Old Sep 15, 2006, 04:33 PM   #3  
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I beleive as in all religions talk is very cheap but it is the actions of each group that tells us alot about each one.

I see many groups calling thierself Christian, and yes they may feed the poor and clothe the poor, but are they following the rest of the bible ??

I see many groups calling thierself Christian that have some very stange added ideas from other books, but also claim Christ as Lord and Savior,
who am I do judge if they also follow the teachings of the bible.

As with Islam, I have read the Quran and honest see very little Islam in any of the political or militant groups ( actually see very little in any of the groups that are vocal that I have seen)
I have seen it in local groups living thier day to day lives, but with any good thing, once you start using it to control people or as a political movement, man and his evil ( in any relgion) soon come out.
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THE PEOPLE THAT ARE KILLING AND BOMBING HAVE VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH THE REAL ISLAM. THESE PEOPLE ARE JUST IGNORANT, MINDLESS LITTLE SHEEP THAT CAN DO NOTHING ON THEIR OWN SO THEY FALL PREY TO THE BRAIN WASH TACTICS OF THE EVIL, GREEDY BASTARDS THAT REALLY BELEIVE THEY CAN TAKE OVER THE WORLD. THEY HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING GOOD, BUILT ANYTHING OR CREATED ANYTHING. THEY HAVE NO LAWS OR SOCIAL STRUCTURE IN PLACE TO PROTECT ANYONE. THEY CIRCUMSIZE THEIR WOMEN SO THEY CANNOT ENJOY SEX SINCE THEY ARE NOT MAN ENOUGH TO SATISFY A WOMEN. THESE IDIOTS ALL NEED TO BE KILLED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE! IF THEY LEAVE THEIR HOUSE FOR MORE THAN 5 HOURS, SOMEONE ELSE MOVES IN. THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN EVICT THEM IS TO KILL THEM. WE ARE DEALING WITH COMPLETE MORONS AND THE ONLY WAY TO WIN IS BY SIMPLY KILLING EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM. IF AMERICA DOES NOT UNITE AND SUPPORT THIS WAR ON STUPIDITY, THE WHOLE WORLD IS AT RISK OF HAVING THESE IDIOTS RUNNING LOOSE EVERYWHERE. IF YOU HAVE ONE OUNCE OF COMPASSION FOR THEM THEN YOU ARE A BIGGER IDIOT THAN THEY.

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RickJ agrees: "THE PEOPLE THAT ARE KILLING AND BOMBING HAVE VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH THE REAL ISLAM" Yep, that's it in a nutshell.
Morganite disagrees: I hate terrorism, but your mischaracterisation of them shows you do not know much about them. Shouting and hurling insults at them and others makes no positive contribution to the issue.
Krs agrees: I LOVE YOU MAGPROB.. I LOVE THE WAY YOU HERE SPEAKING THE TRUTH AND I AM 101% WITH YOU ON THIS ;)
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Old Sep 19, 2006, 05:39 PM   #5  
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Morganite disagrees: I hate terrorism, but your mischaracterisation of them shows you do not know much about them. Shouting and hurling insults at them and others makes no positive contribution to the issue.

No, you just disagree with me and you always do. It does'nt matter though as I realize you are misinformed at best and a dullard most often. It is people like you that make AMHD so boring and uninspiring these days and the biggest reason I no longer have time for it. AMF

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I will say what I lack to see is any "main line" Islam standing up and saying the terrorism is wrong, Even our US national Muslim groups seem to side with the terrorist over the US.

On Liberal Radio today the liberal movement was taking the side of the leader of IRAN over the betterment of the US, This is very scary and hard to understand, that anyone could support those that support terrorism and have called for the destruction of the US. Iran denys the holocost happened with the Jews,, and have called for all of the Jews to be wiped off the face of the earth. This compares to me of the KKK who also denys the holocost happened and want to merely take all the blacks ( maybe mexicans now, I understand they added them this last month) So why do the liberals not support the KKK if they can support Iran, ( just a silly comparison)

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Well, Bush spoke well at the U.N. today. Hopefully, it will take some of the attention off the Pope's speech. And the Pres. of Iran, Ahmadinejah, speaking separately at the U.N. Whatcha think? I'll be praying for the peaceful "outcome" with Iran,etc., and for Pres. Bush. I think all efforts have to concentrate on each other living up to a common goal of peace and harmony. Or else we're hastening Jesus' return, pretty much. Who wants that kinda WAR?

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THE PEOPLE THAT ARE KILLING AND BOMBING HAVE VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH THE REAL ISLAM. THESE PEOPLE ARE JUST IGNORANT, MINDLESS LITTLE SHEEP THAT CAN DO NOTHING ON THEIR OWN SO THEY FALL PREY TO THE BRAIN WASH TACTICS OF THE EVIL, GREEDY BASTARDS THAT REALLY BELEIVE THEY CAN TAKE OVER THE WORLD. THEY HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING GOOD, BUILT ANYTHING OR CREATED ANYTHING. THEY HAVE NO LAWS OR SOCIAL STRUCTURE IN PLACE TO PROTECT ANYONE. THEY CIRCUMSIZE THEIR WOMEN SO THEY CANNOT ENJOY SEX SINCE THEY ARE NOT MAN ENOUGH TO SATISFY A WOMEN. THESE IDIOTS ALL NEED TO BE KILLED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE! IF THEY LEAVE THEIR HOUSE FOR MORE THAN 5 HOURS, SOMEONE ELSE MOVES IN. THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN EVICT THEM IS TO KILL THEM. WE ARE DEALING WITH COMPLETE MORONS AND THE ONLY WAY TO WIN IS BY SIMPLY KILLING EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM. IF AMERICA DOES NOT UNITE AND SUPPORT THIS WAR ON STUPIDITY, THE WHOLE WORLD IS AT RISK OF HAVING THESE IDIOTS RUNNING LOOSE EVERYWHERE. IF YOU HAVE ONE OUNCE OF COMPASSION FOR THEM THEN YOU ARE A BIGGER IDIOT THAN THEY.
I am so proud of you
You are speaking the truth.

We need to watch our backs.
They are all brainwashed and greedy and you are so right in saying they belive they want to take over everywhere. I believe it too and plenty of people i know believe it too.
Look how ignorant they all are... did u all read what they said about the pope?? for what he said which was just a quote off an old book. They read everything in the wrong manner and are now accepting a 'proper' apology from the pope, to me the Pope does NOT need to apologise to these people, he said nothing wrong. He spoke the TRUTH.

I so believe thats there scope, why?? becuase they are invading everywhere!!

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Morganite agrees: Bigotry is always sad. Multiplying does not cleanse the evil from it, and that applies regardless of who is exercising bigotry and prejudice. I don't care what you say,. Hitler was WRONG!
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As an aside, remember that what we hear on the news is what the MEDIA wants us to hear. They broadcast what will make them the most money, often regardless of it's value.

We rarely hear reports of the various Muslims who speak out against terrorism.

Here is a compilation page of some of them:
http://www.unc.edu/~kurzman/terror.htm

And we rarely hear of organizations such as these:
Islam For Today
Islam Denounces Terrorism.com
Free Muslims Coalition
Muslims Against Terrorism
...etc...
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You are right Rick, but that goes for everything in the news. I do not want to be at war but I have talked to many soldiers coming back from Iraq and what they have to say is very different from what we hear on the news.
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