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Home > Family & People > Relationships   »   conditional love? should i stay or go?

 
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Old Jun 15, 2008, 01:01 AM
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conditional love? should i stay or go?

i have been with my bf for a year and a half and we have had our ups and downs. iv been unhappy recently because iv noticed he doesnt make as much effort as he used to. he doesnt call anymore or email or anything else other than texting. all he does is text me a few times a day which is fine, but i would like other ways of contacting too and iv made the effort to do this but he hasnt. he also hardly suggests going places so i feel like i always have to suggest places to go out.
so recently iv cried in front of him and told him how i feel and that i want him to make more effort for me, in terms of what iv said above. he hugged me and said he would and said hes looking forward to making me smile etc. and this made me happy because i knew he wanted to make the effort.
however, a few days went on and he still hadnt so i just mentioned it to him jokedly but he got touchy about it and said "it'll happen when it happens". this upset me because its not as if i was asking for anything big. i just want to see him make more effort.
later on that day he told me somemore things that REALLY upset me and has made me even more miserable the past week since he told me. he began crying and said he doesnt feel as keen to make me happy as he used to because of how i used to treat him. (this was last year where i just didnt make as much effort for him and wasnt there for him) but i told him that was different and i apologised and iv changed, im not like that anymore cos i love him so much more than i used to, and that he shouldnt hold a grudge for something that was last year, but he said he always hold grudges against me... isnt that very conditional? he said he doesnt feel like he wants to make the effort for me and he hardly wants to go places with me because the places i suggest are apparently places I want to go to and not where he wants to go. i honestly never thought about it that way, i suggested places for US. iv always asked not demanded that we go somewhere and hes happily agreed. he doesnt tell me if he doesnt wanna go somewhere. i dont feel that everywhere i wanna go is for myself, recently i suggested we go golf cos i know he likes golf, eventhough im not that keen on it but i just like spending time with him. then after we spoke about it i said i love him and he said he loves me too and i asked jokedly "how much?" (which he usually responds to as soo much), but this time it was "i dont know" and i was shocked. he said he doesnt know how much he loves me. then we carried on talking about the effort thing and sorted it out more (more for him not for me), and i asked him why he said he doesnt know how much he loves me, and he said hes sorry he just said it cos he was upset and he does love me a lot and he hugged and kissed me.
so anyway, the next morning i briefly mentioned it and said he shouldnt say stuff like that to upset me, (cos hes done it before, hes told me he doesnt love me anymore and broke up with me then a few days later told me he still loves me so much and hes been so stupid etc, then we got back together. then another time hes said im boring because all we do is sit at home so i said ok we both should suggest more places to go, and iv been doing that recently but now hes complaining about that! saying i only suggest places i wanna go). but then he texted "i do love you differently now from how i used to" and i rang him in tears asking what he means and he said he loves me less now because i seem like a different person. he said its perfect when were together, but when were apart i always seem like an unhappy person in general whenever he talks to me. he also said im judgemental about people :S i mean yeah, everyones a little judgemental but im not THAT judgemental. i told him this and i said hes also judgemental about people and he made some excuse like "i feel like i have to be judgemental around you cos i think its common ground"... what? he also said i act like my friends sometimes when im around him and it annoys him but i honestly dont think i do. maybe sometimes i would say some things that they would jokedly say, but he doesnt like it cos he doesnt like my friends. i then told him ide try not to do this anymore if it annoys him then and about the unhappy thing, i said i would tell him more when i am in a good mood and i have been doing that a lot recently. he agreed and told me that when hes unhappy he cheers himself up and just gets over it, but with me i prefer to talk to people about it (and i admit, recently its been quite a bit cos of him not making as much effort). i asked him if he would grow to love me more again if i did all this, and he said he hopes so and he would prefer it to happen than to break up.
im still really upset about it all. i just look back to how he used to be and i end up crying because i miss the old him. when were together its absolutely fine, its perfect. its just when were apart and obviously we cant be together all the time. i just want to feel like he cares when were apart. i feel like he only loves me if i do everything right for him, and for me its completely opposite for him. i just love him so much. what do you think i should do? should i wait and see if theres an improvement? see if he'll gradually love me more again and start making more effort like he used to if i change myself a little? or should i give up? iv been thinkin about the option of breakin up with him but i dont know how i would cope. i want to see if he will change too if i make small changes but i dont know. what do you think i should do?
please help. thank you, i appreciate everyones opinions.

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Old Jun 15, 2008, 04:57 AM   #2  
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It sounds like there is a lot of built up frustration that is going on. It's a compilation of problems and if it's not one excuse it's another with him. My suggestion is to read these three books. Relationship Rescue by Doctor Phil, Five Love Languages by Chapman and When Mars and Venus Collide. I read those books and they have positive outlooks on relationships that have helped me coup and deal with things I'm going through right now. The first will tell you how to start solving the problems by youself and trying to fix things even if he isn't willing to. The second explains why at times it seems like you don't feel loved enough and how to figure out how to give the person you are with and yourself the love that you need. The third one is a look on relationships and Stress and it's really good. It mentions some of the excuses and why men or woman use them. It also illustrates how it goes from doing this every day to not wanting to do this every day. Ok now for my advice...you don't have to be perfect for him because that wouldn't be fair at all. You should indeed think of things in terms of us and sometimes you do have to make sacrifices and say well I don't really like doing this, but he does so I'll do this for him. Eventually and hopefully he will start feeling better about himself and in return feel better about you and see the things you are doing. This doesn't mean smoother him with time and so on cause guys occassionally need time to themselves but instead of just sitting at home try to think of something you can do together and make the time you spend quality time instead of just hanging out time. Sometimes in the relationship you have to say do i want to be right or do I want to be happy? See going back and forth and trying to make yourself seem right to him doesn't help the situation. Look this is how I look at it, if you know you are right, and he thinks he is right, what's wrong with letting him think he is right for now until you can stabilize the relationship and then work on those problems? Not saying it's all on you because he will eventually have to make an effort and quit blaming you for everything. There is obviously some other things in his life that is making him unhappy and it seems that he is taking it out on you. Is he unhappy at work? Family ? I mean these are things that guys bottle up and eventually let loose on their girlfriends and say it's them and say that they make them feel this way. So I would take a step back.....breath....look at the situation, and look at other things that could be stressing him in life.....then go...ok this is bothering him, and what am I doing to make it better and what am I doing that may make it worse. Keep confidence because once you do your part then you can really see where the problems lay at. You will say ok now I fixed the things I felt was wrong with me and things are still going downhill, now you can look at him and figure out what things need to be worked out with him as well.
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Old Jun 15, 2008, 06:37 AM   #3  
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Your not handling the rigors of a long distance well at all, and your still insecure with discovering the insecurities in you and his reaction to them.

You need something else to do besides trying to figure him out, when he is not there.

Somethings you must let go, and accept, and the most glaring of all, is what you do for yourself. It must not be enough to carry you thru the away times, and this will make you both suffer. You cannot control what he does, or the why behind it, but you can surely do something for yourself, to be happy with yourself, and stop the demands that do nothing but stroke your need for more attention, that he may not be able to give.

You need some local friends, and activities that you enjoy, when he is not there.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 02:37 AM   #4  
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thanks for the advice guys and thanks confusedguy for the book recommendations, they sound helpful.

another thing, i just found out this morning. ages iv been on my boyfriends facebook on my phone to edit stuff for him (he knew about this) and gave me his password. hes changed it now tho and i dont know it which is fine cos he wants his privacy. however, i couldnt get on my own facebook on my computer cos my internet was down, so i used my phone to go on mine, and when i typed in the site, it took me to HIS account which i didnt expect. its because ages when i was on his account on my phone i didnt log out and somehow its still logged in on my phone. but anyways, as soon as it logged me in automatically to his account i saw a poke from another girl, and it was the same girl ages ago he was messaging privately on myspace because he found her interesting etc. (shes from indonesia and we live in england tho). but anyway, this was an issue before because i got upset that he never told me about her and tried to hide it and he promised he wouldnt do it again cos he knows it would upset me a lot. he did promise me and it was serious. and now hes started talking to her again.. the thing im upset about is he promised me before because it hurt me a lot (and he knew this), and now hes done it again and not told me. so i rang him and asked why hes done it again when he promised before that he wouldnt, i also said he just couldve just been more open about it because it was an issue in the past, but he said i wouldntve understood cos i would think he just fancies her when he doesnt. but i wasnt mad at him i was just talking to him politely, he apologised and said he would be more open about it. i asked why he likes talkin to her and he said shes interesting. it makes me kinda upset cos he can make the effort for her and message this girl twice a week, yet i get nothing. it just makes me feel as if hes isnt interested in me anymore at all. i dont know how i should feel about this? what do you think? do i have a reason to be upset? or is it just silly? i just need someone to tell me. also the fact that he knew it upset me so much before, yet hes managed to do it again knowing that it would upset me.. thanks.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 02:45 AM   #5  
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also hes back from uni now for the summer, so hes gna be home for 3/4 months.
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