hi i was wondering what you guys think about same sex marriages. i think that it is wrong beause of my religous values, because marriage was meant for men and women, also a million diseases can be transmitted through same sex marriages. its also weird, i know some people are gay, but it shouldn't be legal, like i say its wrong!
though i want to know what you guys say, if you are gay/lesbian i would love to hear what you think, also i would like to hear what people who are straight think, acually i want to hear everyones oppinion.
remember this is only my oppinion, but i want to here youirs
thanks

Sam DePecan

Emland

Same goes for hetero marriages, so that is not a good argument.

I have been in a traditional man + woman marriage for almost 22 years. I have no problem with gay/lesbian marriages at all. It is a contract after all and that should not be restricted. Many couples can't transfer property or have loved ones making critical decisions at a hospital and such because of the ways our laws are written concerning marriage. If your religion forbids it, then that is a different situation - that gets into the philosophical realm of if it is moral or not. I think people should be able to share their life with any consenting adult they choose.

Sonador101

yeah you have a pint, and yeas diseases can be transmitted through man+women marriages. though we got to think this through, this country (america) has moral values, now i can't say "america says you guys can't marry" but i still feel the way i do.
now i don't have a promblem with people who are gay living together and havin sex together, but once we make it legal there is no going back.

Sam DePecan

progunr

That my friend was a serious vent, I hope you felt better after you posted it.

I'm afraid however, there is no room in that post for an answer.

Sorry about your loss.

Fr_Chuck

Well first I will most likely offend everyone on both sides, I care less about the marriage, marriage in the US is a legal system to control what is or was a social or religous teaching. So for gay, straight or men with sheep, the state could issue a civil contract for them if they want to make that legal, that is the states rights. The Federal government does not even have a right to rule on it, since it was and has always been a states right.

From the religious side, I don't care what you call it, it is not the paper I object to, it is the actual relationship, thier living together in the first place that is offensive to me. So guess what the religious already lost this battle in the US, they are allowed to live together now in every state and there is nothing done about that.

So what they are looking for now is the legal status to protect the rights within that relationship. So let them have thier civil union or "marriage" since it is still not a union that God is blessing, no matter what words some pastor says over them.

But with that, since society has allowed them to be together, those in those relationships need some legal protections and some of the pain of the legal system. For example when the gay couple breaks up I welcome them the hassle of divorce court and having to give each other 1/2 of thier property. I also know some of the pain, for those couples that have children, often only one has legal custody, so both should have the same rights to thier children. And at thier death, while we may not like thier relationships, they do desserve the right to inherit it property.

Sonador101

sam depecan,
if you loved her it is good you married, her even though she died. it is not your fault whatsoever.
about you obviouly hating the goverment, i can't speak to that its your choice. i for one have a lot of respect for this country.
are you saying that you wish you were gay so this would'nt of happend, well guys have heart attacks you know. you sound like your hurting but i must say i didn't understand most of your post, i betthers something in there, hidden in all the g man and basic g hatred.

Synnen

One of the few reasons my husband and I got married is because he was admitted to the emergency room, and they would NOT give me any information on him. We had been together 4 years at that point, and had every intention of spending the rest of our lives together--there was just no real hurry to marry. I mean, things were FINE the way they were--why mess with a good thing?

So..I completely and totally understand the need that homosexuals feel to marry those they love. Without the power of marriage behind them, they can not inherit from each other, they have no rights on medical decisions for their "spouse" if somehow the spouse becomes incapacitated. They have no legal say for ANYTHING a normal married person could expect to have with their spouse. Can you BLAME them for fighting for it?

There's far too much hate in this world as it is. When love is found--should we REALLY punish it because it's not between a man and a woman?

Honestly, what it comes down to is this for me: If those religious conservatives out there are not willing to legalize marriage between homosexuals (and this has NOTHING to do with whether or not it is in a church--the different religions and churches out there should make their OWN choices as to whether or not they accept it--this has solely to do with the LEGAL aspect of it), then all rights that belong to a marriage should disappear. If a homosexual couple in the same thing as a marriage can not have those rights, then to keep this country equal, a heterosexual couple should not have them either. No legal rights to property, no tax breaks for each other, no rights for medical decisions--nothing. No legal rights to ANYTHING involving your spouse.

I don't give a rat's nostril about whether or not it's MORAL. I find some things that religions do highly offensive, bordering on "immoral". Your morals aren't mine. What I care about are the LEGAL aspects of it. If you are willing to devote yourself to another person for LIFE, then you should have LEGAL rights to aid your partner after an accident in making medical decisions, or rights to property after a death, or rights to health care benefits just like any other spouse would get.

Sonador101

fr-chuck
if they want there (spouse) to inherit proberty they could write it up in a will,or somerting.