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Jan 3, 2008, 05:47 AM
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The nice guy may lose a few battles but he wins the war.
Hang in there nice guys.
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Jan 3, 2008, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by bluerose
The nice guy may lose a few battles but he wins the war.
Hang in there nice guys.
I guess that's sort of true.. but.. I wait for the girl to come to me I don't go looking for one even if I do find one without trying and... nice guys... do finish last
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Jan 3, 2008, 07:45 AM
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I think the reason allot of nice guys finish last is because we tend to allow women to walk all over us when we become emotionally attached. I know I do it. The only nice guys that truly finish last are the ones that don't learn from their past experiences.
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Jan 3, 2008, 08:01 AM
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Nice guys only finish last just like kullski said, they get walked over all the time. When you learn not to allow that you'll be much better off. After all there are nice girls out there, you just need to go find them.
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Jan 3, 2008, 10:06 AM
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I'm a nice guy, but not all the time, and I try to be a good guy. I do become a royal terror if you piss me off! I don't give rats patoot about finishing last, or first. But I am one happy sonuva gun, because I know what I want and how to get it, and that's what's important to me.
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Jan 3, 2008, 11:06 AM
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Just from a female's point of view...
Girls want to be pursued. Yeah, we all know that. But girls also want to pursue. That is why bad boys have all the nice gals sticking to them like glue.
It is when you do not have that you want it the most. If you have curly hair, u wish u have straight hair. If you have straight hair, u wish for curly locks. Have you tried taming unruly hair and yet it still gets out of place? U will continue fidgeting with it right?
Well, then you know how a gal feels when she is trying to tame the bad boy. She likes challenges and cannot let go until she sees the boy is tamed (who often times will not be).
Nice guys, on the other hand, bend backwards too much that their gals do not see the challenge and excitement there. If a nice guy become less available (maybe for genuine work reasons etc), surely the gal he has been pursuing will want to know why he is far from reach. The "nice guy" is still in him, but he is becoming less subservient and more assertive. He knows that he still has a life out there besides attending to the gal's every needs.
This is the type of guy most females want. The nice guy but with self-confidence. If a woman who is ready for a healthy, committed relationship finds such guy, she will definitely make him the last guy--her HUSBAND!
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Jan 3, 2008, 11:11 AM
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@lavenderly
Nice post. I think confidence has been my issue. Funny thing is I get them with confidence because I don't call them all the time etc.. But once I get emotionally involved I tend to fold 2 much. I have learned from my last experience. My ex emails me now after 4 months and I haven't continued NC because I feel I have progressed to a point where contact is OK. I don't get too deep into the convos and keep it short and sweet. I still love this girl and wish it could have worked out. But I know if I look at the emails as her trying to reconile then I missed the point of NC. It was for me and I am better and improving. If she is interested I am sure she will reach out if not then it is her loss and the next 1 will benefit from the lessons I have learned.
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Jan 3, 2008, 12:16 PM
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I understand how you feel when you get too emotionally involved. It happens to nice gals who are too giving in a relationship with guys too. Often times, these are bad guys because they like to take advantage of nice gals and treat them as doormats. Nevertheless, the gals go back for more and find it hard to break off the attachment.
Not wanting to judge your experience with your ex, but I'm just concern that your NC was broken off a bit early.
I still love this girl and wish it could have worked out. But I know if I look at the emails as her trying to reconile then I missed the point of NC.
The fact that you still love her and yet keeping contact, and that you are cautious not to treat her email as hints of getting back, means that you are not totally OK with losing her. Maybe you know yourself better, but if you ever get stucked again in some emotional turmoil, you only have yourself to blame.
Of course, I'm wishing you all the best and that you will soon pick up the idea of being a nice but wanted guy.
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Jan 3, 2008, 12:52 PM
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I agree with you which is why I have been keeping everything short and sweet. To deny my interest I would think would be lying to myself. I have no interest in getting back into the same situation however I do feel we had a solid foundation to build on and the space could be either a growing period for us both which on my side it has been or just an excuse. My assumption is the worst but I have been told by my therapist that is not healthy. So I decided to be positive and assume what she is saying is true and if it works out it will naturally. I don't sit at home anymore worrying about it and I feel since I didn't contact her I achieved my goal which was to be able to stay NC for several months. It may mean nothing and it may mean she wants to reconcile either way I feel I am better then I have been and I want to continue to progress. If she wants to work things out I have things I feel I missed that need to be addressed on her side of things. If she agrees or we reach a middle ground I don't see anything wrong with it. I just see something wrong with allowing the situation to overwhelm me stress me and knock me out of focus. All I truly want is to be happy with her or without her I believe is not my call which keeps me grounded.
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Jan 3, 2008, 04:38 PM
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You never know what the girls thinking... and if she don't know.. you can't blame her...
That so true
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Jan 3, 2008, 04:51 PM
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I've answered this before, but here it goes again:
Nice guys are BORING. Don't get me wrong--I ended up with a nice guy in the end, and in the end, most women WANT a nice guy. But what we do NOT want is someone who loses himself to us. We WANT a guy that stands up for what he thinks. We WANT a guy that says no sometimes. We WANT a guy that has enough confidence that he doesn't rely on us to make ALL of the decisions, all of the choices, and ultimately--make the relationship work.
Think about it.
A nice guy will take a girl out to dinner, and let her choose the restaurant. EVERY time. Sometimes we like the decision NOT to be in our hands! A nice guy says "okay" to everything a girl suggests, instead of comign up with his OWN opinion on stuff.
Nice guys are great, but the guys that go too far eventually become an extension of the girl they're dating--NOT their own person.
And who the heck wants to date themselves?
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Jan 3, 2008, 10:40 PM
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Hell I Am Proud To Be A Nice Guy Now >... nice Guy For Life
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