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Asked Apr 3, 2012, 04:46 AM — 170 Answers
So there is the woman, whom I loved with my every thing.

It was an LDR, I did not want to go into it, she convinced me to come into it. She countered all my arguments with assurance that it would work. Before her, I was in an abusive relationship, so I was reluctant to take another relationship at all, as I thought I will not survive another breakup. However, she continued to support me, and convince me it would work.

I fell again in love. I gave her my everything. She has a Muskogee Indian heritage, and I started to learn the language for her (I speak German and English). I loved her with all my honesty. She kept on telling me I am her soul mate and so on. I told her again to leave me if this was a game, as I would not be able to handle another breakup.

Now since the last week, she is not talking to me, not picking up my calls, and so on. I am spending nights without sleep, hoping she will finally get time to talk with me. She is in USA, I am in Germany, and hence we have a time difference.

Now she sends me a message in FB, telling me she wants to end the relationship. She uses the same arguments (such as this is an internet relationship), which she herself countered. This falsifies her previous counterarguments. Hence the whole time it has been a lie.

However, I have a deadline in 8 days (not negotiable). And I am feeling like killing myself. I am not able to take this breakup. I am sorry. But on the other hand, my brain says I should leave to fulfill the deadline at least. Please help, I am a 22 year old man, atheist, ready to take the world face on (I took a number of troubles face on, I was homeless, at some point of time, I was about to be kicked out of the uni, from there I went to work in the German airspace center, and graduated without taking any extra semester, and with 20 extra course credit - 200 instead of 180 that is), don't know what to think, sitting alone in the staircase, crying uncontrollably, and attempting to commit suicide. The reward of my honesty to the woman is my tears.

There must have been a gap in my honesty. If my honesty is lacking, what is the point of living?

I just want to live till 11th of April and do the assigned work. But I can't convince myself to do so. Please help.

I don't need condolences, I don't need clichés. I need serious advices. I just need to finish my work, for which I have 8 days. Help me to live for these 8 days.


I don't care if she is worth it or not.
I care:
1. The reward are my tears, there must have been a gap in my honesty
2. She lied all the way, she used the same arguments that I used to avoid getting into it in the first place, must be something wrong in me
3. She again lied. She said that she "found new realizations, after having a discussion with someone" - why can't just she say she found a new man.
4. 8 days of life would suffice. Just help me with that.

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Apr 12, 2012, 05:46 PM


Challenge of a Lifetime: During the next 24 hours, do not post in this thread. Instead, post at least ten times on Relationship threads and help others. I will be here and reading.
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Apr 12, 2012, 05:47 PM
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Challenge of a Lifetime: During the next 24 hours, do not post in this thread. Instead, post at least ten times on Relationship threads and help others. I will be here and reading.
ten times would be a bit to much. will try.
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Apr 12, 2012, 05:51 PM


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ten times would be a bit to much. will try.
I could do ten in an hour. I've given you 24 hours. Relationships board is one of the most popular ones. The other popular one is Plumbing. You can switch to that, if you like.
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Apr 12, 2012, 06:19 PM
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I could do ten in an hour. I've given you 24 hours. Relationships board is one of the most popular ones. The other popular one is Plumbing. You can switch to that, if you like.
i aint an expert in this!
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Apr 12, 2012, 06:22 PM


There are only a few Relationships experts. One doesn't have to be an expert to post an answer. It's 8:21 here, and 2 or 3 a.m. where you are? Let's synchronize our watches.
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Apr 12, 2012, 07:19 PM
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One doesn't have to be an expert to post an answer.
I would first try to do not harm. It is better to post not an answer than a non expert answer.
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It's 8:21 here, and 2 or 3 a.m. where you are? Let's synchronize our watches.
0418 here
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Apr 12, 2012, 07:24 PM
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I would first try to do not harm. It is better to post not an answer than a non expert answer.
You can empathize. Most answers are not from "experts," but are from people who are simply living their lives the best way they can.

Time for bed?
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Apr 12, 2012, 08:43 PM
To be read in 24 hours

WG's suggestion is an excellent one, and will help you get out of yourself, and see you are not alone in your pain, and while you cannot do much about it at the moment, you can relate to others going thru the same thing that you are.

Then maybe you will see that placing logic on human emotions seldom works just because feelings have so many random variables to predict an out come. Any interaction between humans is a high risk crap shoot.

Despite your very high intelligience you are pretty dumb in the management of your own feelings and will have trouble adjusting fast enough to help yourself. Thats okay we all go thru those growing pains, as coping skills are learned thru time, and experience, and has nothing to do with logic. Like, math, and english, you have to learn.

I for one am glad you came here and reached out, and that my friend is a very positive sign, as I think that as a giving person, you just need to be able to give (what a helluva motivation to volunteer to others), as your power comes more from the giving, than the having.

For now its adjustments, and managing your own thoughts, feelings, and actions. What you call motivation, is simply a lack of enthusiasm, and focus, caused by shock at the events you went thru. This is a temporary thing, and made worse by other events. You are overwhelmed, and who wouldn't be.

Believe it or not, your motivation will come back on its own, so stop pressing so hard. Its like getting over a cold, you relieve the symptoms until the body takes control back.

I am an engineer by trade, so I couldn't help but be fascinated by the reasons your equations does not work.

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~P because Q
P because Q

P: i enjoy my joys
Q: i am a human
~(Q→P) : just because i am a human, i can not enjoy those things any more. it is NOT working that way. i did not speculate a cause, i am saying a fact. that is, my statement was not in form of W→~(Q→P), it was in the form W > ~(S)|(Q→P) in S, > is an ordering relation.

you are saying Q→P. I was looking for possible help , while stating my problem
~(Q→P), you are claiming the opposite, do i have a communication problem?
Your equation is flawed. You failed to compensate for the human event (X), that shlt can happen at any time. Thats the first law of reality for all humans.
Adjust your equation for the unxpected(S), and the unwanted (BS).

Explore this site, its amazing.
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Apr 13, 2012, 05:43 AM
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To be read in 24 hours

WG's suggestion is an excellent one, and will help you get out of yourself, and see you are not alone in your pain, and while you cannot do much about it at the moment, you can relate to others going thru the same thing that you are.
I believe at the beginning i mentioned that i know other people also have there troubles, a friend of mine has MUCH bigger trouble than i do. His GF left himand became a hooker. Knowing that does not help. That is why i am coming here.


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Then maybe you will see that placing logic on human emotions seldom works just because feelings have so many random variables to predict an out come. Any interaction between humans is a high risk crap shoot.
I placed symbolic notation on STATEMENT. I did NOT place them on emotions.

If a statement is written as P, then it's opposite is ~P

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Despite your very high intelligience you are pretty dumb in the management of your own feelings and will have trouble adjusting fast enough to help yourself.
Again, you dont say. I KNOW i cant manage myself and that is why i was looking for help, why are you repeating the statement that i already made describing my problem.

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Thats okay we all go thru those growing pains, as coping skills are learned thru time, and experience, and has nothing to do with logic. Like, math, and english, you have to learn.
Comeon. I do have Excellent coping skills, result of psychological training in the paramillitary. You know that too, I used it all the time in my life. This is a case which broke me

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I for one am glad you came here and reached out, and that my friend is a very positive sign, as I think that as a giving person, you just need to be able to give (what a helluva motivation to volunteer to others), as your power comes more from the giving, than the having.
Boy did not someone (was it you?) say i give too much and need stop being overgiving? (if it was you then either now or then you were possibly formally lying, from definition. This confuses me.)

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For now its adjustments, and managing your own thoughts, feelings, and actions. What you call motivation, is simply a lack of enthusiasm, and focus, caused by shock at the events you went thru. This is a temporary thing, and made worse by other events. You are overwhelmed, and who wouldn't be.
Thank you for the discovery.

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Believe it or not, your motivation will come back on its own, so stop pressing so hard. Its like getting over a cold, you relieve the symptoms until the body takes control back.
How many times must i repeat that i am under the muzzle of a gun where efficiency is to be achieved, no matter how badly hurt you are. Your personal life should not affect your works.

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I am an engineer by trade, so I couldn't help but be fascinated by the reasons your equations does not work.

Your equation is flawed. You failed to compensate for the human event (X), that shlt can happen at any time. Thats the first law of reality for all humans.
Adjust your equation for the unxpected(S), and the unwanted (BS).

Explore this site, its amazing.
Interesting.

First of all it is not an equation. It is an expression. I know my other engineer friends have trouble differentiating between equation and expression.

Second, this is actually a template, describing forms of statements, specifically an exclusion template. My statement was that i exclude any statement that takes the form W→~(S)|(Q →P) in (S) . Had I not excluded this, your argument would be valid, asking whether W contains X or BS or not, that would offer you a chance for emperically falsify my statement using EXACTLY the argument you made. BUT I EXCLUDED those forms, so your argument does not apply.
It was in the form, W>~(S)|(Q →P) in (S) , which from definition is a SEQUENCE, and not an equation. Indeed in this sequence i could force insert X, and BS and stuff, but i am making a sequence of MY observations, which from Axiom of Choice, is indeed a valid sequence.


I am trying to ask a question as precisely formulated as my knowledge of symbolic logic goes. But it hurts me too see that i am receiving unwanted, in your notation, BS.
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Apr 13, 2012, 06:32 AM
You were supposed to wait 24 hours. You cheated!
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