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Found Out Tonight My fiancˇ is Having an Affair With Her Married Boss What do I do?

Asked Apr 18, 2011, 10:39 AM — 66 Answers
I'm 34. I am/was dating a girl, currently 28, for approximately five years. We broke up 2 1/2 years into the relationship after constant fighting and mistrust. I thought she was having an affair with her married boss after I found her texting him late at night and his name was in her cell phone as "My Husband". She denied it and said the name was a joke. I could never prove anything occurred, but the mistrust was planted. Things went downhill thereafter. She moved out and we broke up. After not speaking for 9 months we eventually got back together because after we saw each other out one night she claimed she knew I was the one she wanted to be with. It was rough at first because I had trust issues. And, I found out she was texting other guys she "saw" when we broke up. She claimed that nothing inappropriate was going on and they were just "guy friends". I moved past it trusting her.

For the past year, things have generally been great. She's settled down and we haven't had any real problems. Things have been so good, we actually signed a lease together to move in, in two weeks. She talked about how she couldn't wait to marry me and for us to start our life.

Believing that I could definitely spend my life with this woman. I bought and engagement ring and set up a proposal for this weekend.

Last night, I was at her house visiting and was getting ready to leave to drive to her parents to ask for their permission to marry their daughter. We had both recently got new phones, so I was looking at hers while she was in the shower. It definitely was an invasion of privacy, but something told me to do it. I had trusted her for the past 9 months and didn't have any issues. But something made me think I should look.

When I looked, I saw she had a voicemail from a number I didn't recognize at 1am the night before. Curiosity got the best of me and I listened to the voicemail. It was a man's voice who was highly intoxicated, it said... "Princess, I loved spending time with you yesterday. I miss you. I'm sorry I couldn't come over tonight. I can't wait to keep my promise to you...". I wrote down the number from the message. I called the number, it was her married boss's cell phone.

In shock, I stormed out of her house. Mistake. Minutes later I called her to question her on it. She denied that any message existed ever existed. She said "I have no idea what you are talking about I never got that message". When I returned, we called her voicemail together, she had deleted it from her phone.

She claimed that I was crazy and accusing her of something that I had no bounds. She got very defensive and insulted me and said I issues for checking her phone. She's right. What I did was wrong, but there was just something that told me to do it.

I left. Hours later, in what I can only guess was an effort to resolve the situation, she gave me her T-Mobile login to check on calls that night. What she didn't realize was that the voicemail logs were in a different part than what she likely looked at and didn't see anything. Apparently, incoming calls don't show on the online log if they are not answered and go to voicemail. Sure enough, though, there was a call to her phone that night 30 seconds after the timestamp on the message I heard (1:03am) where she checked her voicemail. I also saw a series of phone calls and messages between them from that day. Although, it was not a regular everyday correspondence, just periodically spaced between weeks, but sometimes at 1am or 2am in the morning when she claimed she was out with friends.

When confronted with this information, she continued to claim that no message ever existed, that anytime she called her voicemail was for other reasons and that any messages between her and her boss were purely work or friendship related. She said sometimes she would text him when out at night innocently.

All that being said, what do I do? I know she's lying. But I can't prove it. I'm not making the voicemail up. And, coincidentally the online log confirms she just happened to check her voicemail seconds after the message that supposedly didn't exist was left at 1:03am? My guess is she will go to her grave denying it because if she admits it she thinks I will tell someone that works at her company and she will get fired. And/or her boss's wife.

In an attempt to get the truth, I told her if the message and calls were one sided (and it was just her boss contacting her inappropriately) all she had to do was tell me, I would understand and we could work through it. She would only say that no such message ever existed. And continued to tell me I was the one with issues. I've seen this pattern before, when she is caught in a lie she gets defensive and tries to turn it on the other person.

In my head I KNOW she's lying. I've always believed, if if walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... But the fact that she continues to deny it is now making me think that I'm crazy and I'm wrong? How can that be?

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#51

Apr 21, 2011, 11:36 AM


Guy, you can go over this in your mind as much as you like and figure all the angles, possibilities, and option.

Fact remains the way you handled things has already poisoned the well, and either made them harder, or burned a bridge. Take your pick.

So back up, and give this some thought without her influence, because I doubt you will ever trust her again even if she walks the straight and narrow.
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#52

Apr 21, 2011, 12:01 PM


Here's the thing:

The trust is gone between the two of you, and neither of you communicates well with the other.

Those two things alone would mean that your relationship is doomed to disaster.

Walk away now.
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Apr 21, 2011, 03:41 PM
Quit running in circles.
Even if there isn't an affair going on right now - she LIED to you about the message. Then turned it against you basically calling you a crazy stalker, when SHE was lying to YOU. Who does that?
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Apr 21, 2011, 03:57 PM
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Quit running in circles.
Even if there isn't an affair going on right now - she LIED to you about the message. Then turned it against you basically calling you a crazy stalker, when SHE was lying to YOU. Who does that?
You got that right!
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Apr 21, 2011, 04:32 PM
Here's the thing.

There were already trust issues. She knew that.

No one should have to go through phone records to find out if their mate is true.

It was her responsibility to nip this in the bud. But continued as if nothing was wrong.
UNTIL you called her on it. It could have gone on forever.

I work with lots of women, but sure as hell don't send lovey, dovey texts to them.

Im not not saying what you did was right, but what she's doing is worse. Shows you exactly what her priorities are. Zero respect for you or your relationship. (let alone self-respect)

Women like that give women a bad name. She needs to grow up.

And you need to chalk this one up. And learn for the next time.

Just don't let mistrust ruin the next one just because of her.....
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Apr 22, 2011, 09:50 AM
She showed up at my house last night. Said she wanted to talk. Wanted to apologize and again admit she lied about the message. Said she lied because the message "sounded" bad. And she knew how she would react if she heard it. She said she was wrong as her initial instinct was to lie because she didn't know how to explain it. She said she was mad that I checked her voicemail and invaded her privacy, that is why she continued to deny it and her first reaction was to blame it on me instead of explaining.

She claimed again and to my face multiple times that she has NEVER had a sexual relationship or affair with her boss. Instead they are VERY close friends, who know all the details of each others lives and talk constantly at the office. That they may talk late at night and she admitted that it could likely be seen as inappropriate (at least on his end because he is married), but that SHE is just friends with him and has never been with him physically. She reiterated that she would never be with a married man.

She claimed that he was incoherently drunk when he left the message, and that the "I miss you" and "miss being with you" was because they spend all day together at the office. She also said that he never said "sorry I couldn't be with you tonight". I thought I heard something to this effect, but can't remember. He may have said "sorry, I couldn't be there today" (i.e. The work event). But again I swear he said "tonight".

She said she told him about this whole thing and he was so upset that it caused us to break up. He wanted to call to apologize and confirm that there is absolutely nothing going on. But she told him not to.

She also claimed that the one time she called him at 2:58am for seven minutes was when she was drunk and she left him a rambling voicemail. I remember this evening, she also left me a long drunk message. Other than that, there have been a few calls and messages (every other week) after work hours; sometimes around 10pm. She claimed that this was either them talking as friends but mostly related to work.

I confronted her multiple times and said there is no reason a married man would leave a message at 1am saying "I miss you" and "miss being with you". Unless, there was something going on. Or, had gone on. She adamantly denied it. Reasserting she would never be with a married man with two kids.

To prove her innocence she gave me her password to her AT&T account and gave me permission to check ANY of her call or txts records for anytime.

At this point, my instinct tells me she's still lying. It just doesn't add up. Married men don't leave messages like that, even when completely drunk, unless something happened. But, she is being transparent?
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#57

Apr 22, 2011, 10:24 AM


It doesn't matter.

You don't trust her, and she compounded that with lying.

The ONLY way this relationship even has a CHANCE is if she cuts ALL contact with her boss outside of work, allows you access whenever you want to any message system she has, and a LOT of counseling.

In fact, I recommend you end the engagement, back off from dating seriously, and see if you can build the trust back up before being involved at a committed level with her at this time.
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Apr 22, 2011, 12:58 PM
I do not know what's what, but do know that she does not conform to what YOU think is the proper girlfriend, and she may never meet what standards that YOU have, and that's what makes this a useless endeavor.

This relationship is poison, and I do not see the point. If you do, please explain.
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Apr 25, 2011, 07:34 PM
The great thing now is that you no longer have to be paranoid or second guess, spend your days & nights in question. Living in the past.

Shes not it. BetrayedPA. Period.

Youve let her run things long enough. Was it worth it? Obviously not. Forget what you though was going to happen.

Go NC, now. Fully.

Youre free, thank your lucky stars. The past behind.

Now you can use your gut.
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Apr 28, 2011, 11:02 AM
Well, just wanted to provide you with an update. Over the past week, she has gone (somewhat) out of her way to make an effort to rectify things. She still claims that nothing sexual ever happened with her boss. That she always loved me and always wanted to marry me. And that those things have never changed.

I shouldn't have, but I've been seeing her again. In all honesty, it's kind of a limbo state. Her saying she wants us to be together. And, me staying with her because despite all that's happened and knowing she is probably an awful person, I still somehow cling to a false sense of hope that she means what she says and can be a good person.

She claims she talked to her boss and told him not to contact her anymore outside of work. And that she hasn't spoken to him outside of work since. She said she'll quit her job if that is what it takes; but ONLY if I financially support her until she finds a new job. I seriously doubt she's telling the truth about quitting her job.

She also claims she'd marry me right now; no wedding, etc. Just so that we were married. Because she knows she wants to marry me. On the other hand, I am now moving into the place who's lease we jointly signed and am solely responsible. She is staying where she is currently renting. But claims that she wants to move in with me. She, however, says that she will not move in until I ask her to marry me and give her a ring. A very expensive ring.

Since I last wrote, I've also had the time to do some investigating of my own into the phone records she gave me. I can again confirm that she was talking to her boss outside of work at inappropriate hours. In all honesty, it could have been innocent over the past few months. But right around the time we were breaking up and even after the time we got back together there were texts and phone calls late into the night. Some coming from him at 1am. Despite what she claims, I have NO DOUBT in my mind, based on the message and the call records, that something definitely happened. Maybe not recently. But definitely at some point.

In addition, her call records show that a few months after we got back together she was still talking to one guy who I know she "hooked up with". There is nothing good for the self esteme like seeing that she was texting this guy (at the same time as me) all hours of the night; at a time in our relationship when she was telling me she knew she only wanted to be with me again and she wanted us to be together forever. She has always claimed that they are just "good friends". Same as what she said about her boss. He has a girlfriend now. Which might explain why they stopped talking a few months ago.

Finally, I found out that she likely was considering submitting herself to be on the Bachelorette TV Show two days before I discovered the message from her boss and a week before we were planning on getting engaged and we were supposed to move in together. I can't confirm it, but I would say it's about 90% likely based on the timeline. Of course, I haven't brought it up, because all it will result in is denials. And maybe I'm just paranoid, but after all this; I'm guessing it's probably true.

To be honest, it's an awful situation I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I've spent five years of my life completely dedicated to someone. That appears to just do whatever the **** she wants. And only care about herself.

I've spent the last few months spending my life savings on a ring. And moving into a place that is extremely inconvenient for me, just to be with her. All the time listening to her tell me how she can't wait to live with me and spend the rest of her life with me.

I guess the question really is, why? Of course, only she can answer that.

But why would a person tell someone they want to marry them and spend the rest of their life with them? Why would someone spend five years dating someone? Sign a lease to move in with them? And, now after being caught and everything that happened want to reconcile the situation and call and email them and tell them they love them and want to be with them? When they've clearly ONLY looked out for themselves by staying in contact with other men, probably having an affair, and then consider applying to be on a tv show to find a husband?

WHY WASTE THE TIME AND EFFORT, WHEN IF THERE WAS ANYONE ELSE SHE WOULD RATHER BE WITH; SHE COULD JUST DO IT! No need to spend all her time with me. No need to email and call and tell me she loves me. No need to plan to move in with me. No need to say she still wants to marry me. No need to keep doing all of it and then in the background talk to other guys, have affairs and apply to reality tv dating shows.

Yes, she's extremely materialistic and probably thinks I can provide a good life for her. And, yes, she's getting older and probably wanted to be married long before now. But why spend the time and go through all of it, with someone you've betrayed and are just going to betray in the end? It just doesn't make sense.

And why do I, after five years and all this ****, still believe her? Still want to be with her? Still believe that she is the only one who makes me happy?
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