Ask Experts Questions for FREE Help!
  Advanced
Register  |  Log in  
   Ask    
 Answer  
  Help  

Ask QuestionsprogressAnswer QuestionsprogressBuild ReputationprogressBecome an Expert
 
Free Answers in 3 Easy Steps

Register Now
3 Steps

At Ask Me Help Desk you can ask questions in any topic and have them answered for free by our experts. To ask questions or participate in answering them you must register for a free account. By registering you will be able to:
  • Get free answers from experts in any of our 300+ topics.
  • Accept money for answers that you provide.
  • Communicate privately with other members (PM).
  • See fewer ads.

Home > Law > Real Estate Law   »   unreasonable LandLord

 
Question Tools Search this Question Display Modes
Question
 
 
#1  
Old Feb 23, 2007, 08:01 PM
TheJezter
New Member
TheJezter is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1
TheJezter See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.
unreasonable LandLord

I read a thread about whether or not a landlord accepting money apon specific terms is binding.

Recently we accepted an apartment, we obtained the lease and application from the landlord dated the 15th of febuary. The was a tenant moving out at the time and we were given permission to take possession allowing the tenant time to clear his belongings.

Also agreed on was improvements on the apartment that we made ourselves at no cost to the landlord.

He agree since we took it on the 15th, he would accept $225 for half month rent and $675 for lastmonth, total being $900. he accepted the money with knowlege of changes being made.

He did not say at that time NOT to change the locks. We did and provided him with keys THAT day.

Also in the termoil over the lock change (after the fact), we were told by the previous tenant that he had paid the full month rent as last month as required by the landlord unaware that we paid half months rent. So he went to the landlord for half his last month rent back.

since then the landlord replies to an email from me asking for receipts and a letter (conveniently did not have them apon accepting the $900) by telling me he is upset about the lock change and now if we want the apartment we have to give him $700 a month rent or we can have our deposit back and move out by the 1st after him knowing we fixed the apartment.

We have the origional lease and application that was presented to us and 3 people that were present during the transaction and terms aside from the landlord.

I don't know what to do in this case whether to play ball or not???

being he told me he had the rite to raise the rent even after presenting us with an application and lease agreement. the real issue i'm stuck on is nothing was sign but he accepted money on terms and is now failing to comply with the agreement.

Agreement was
$675mth +hydro, cable (he paid heat (water heater) ect) + allowing us to take possession on the 15th and start our renovations (at no cost to him )

So far he knows we have worked on the bathroom floor, cleaned everything, primed and painted, fix a plugged tub (with cost to ME) , sealed a window that is broken and other expenses but is requesting $700mth + Hydro after the agreed above.

Reply With Quote
 
     

Answers
 
 
Old Feb 24, 2007, 05:32 AM   #2  
Cvillecpm
Senior Member
Cvillecpm is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: VA
Posts: 553
Cvillecpm See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheJezter
I read a thread about whether or not a landlord accepting money apon specific terms is binding.

Recently we accepted an apartment, we obtained the lease and application from the landlord dated the 15th of febuary. The was a tenant moving out at the time and we were given permission to take possession allowing the tenant time to clear his belongings.

Also agreed on was improvements on the apartment that we made ourselves at no cost to the landlord.

He agree since we took it on the 15th, he would accept $225 for half month rent and $675 for lastmonth, total being $900. he accepted the money with knowlege of changes being made.

He did not say at that time NOT to change the locks. We did and provided him with keys THAT day.

Also in the termoil over the lock change (after the fact), we were told by the previous tenant that he had paid the full month rent as last month as required by the landlord unaware that we paid half months rent. So he went to the landlord for half his last month rent back.

since then the landlord replies to an email from me asking for receipts and a letter (conveniently did not have them apon accepting the $900) by telling me he is upset about the lock change and now if we want the apartment we have to give him $700 a month rent or we can have our deposit back and move out by the 1st after him knowing we fixed the apartment.

We have the origional lease and application that was presented to us and 3 people that were present during the transaction and terms aside from the landlord.

I don't know what to do in this case whether to play ball or not???

being he told me he had the rite to raise the rent even after presenting us with an application and lease agreement. the real issue i'm stuck on is nothing was sign but he accepted money on terms and is now failing to comply with the agreement.

Agreement was
$675mth +hydro, cable (he paid heat (water heater) ect) + allowing us to take possession on the 15th and start our renovations (at no cost to him )

So far he knows we have worked on the bathroom floor, cleaned everything, primed and painted, fix a plugged tub (with cost to ME) , sealed a window that is broken and other expenses but is requesting $700mth + Hydro after the agreed above.
First - change the locks BACK to the one that the landlord originally had on the apt and NEVER again think you can change locks on someone else's apt....somewhere in your lease there is wording to the effect you can not ALTER the property.....

Second - what monies the prior tenant paid in LMR is NOT YOUR CONCERN.

If you want to stay, write an apology to your landlord, provide the receipts he has requested and advise him you have changed the locks back and will ASK HIM prior to making any more alterations to HIS property.
  Reply With Quote
 
     
 
 
Old Feb 24, 2007, 05:44 AM   #3  
ScottGem
Computer Expert
ScottGem is offline
 
ScottGem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: LI, NY - USA
Posts: 22,612
ScottGem See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.ScottGem See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.ScottGem See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.ScottGem See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.ScottGem See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.ScottGem See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.ScottGem See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.ScottGem See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.ScottGem See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.ScottGem See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.ScottGem See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.
Pay to call ScottGem for advice ($.75/min)
Call ScottGem via Skype™
I agree what the other tenant paid is not your concern nor is what you paid his concern. In fact, you may have been in error of telling him your arrangement.

You need to read your lease very carefully. Just because something is not directly prohibited doesn't mean its allowed. However, because you chnaged the locks at your expense AND gave copies of the keys to the landlord immediately, then he should have no grounds to object. The time to object was when you handed over the new keys. If he didn't object then he missed the boat.

Even if the lease was not signed, by accepting money, he tactily agreed to the provisions. So if the lease stated $675 then that's the rental. However, is $25/mth worth fighting about?

If you want to move, then I would present the landlord with a bill for all the changes you made. And deduct that from the March rent.
  Reply With Quote
 
     
 
 
Old Feb 24, 2007, 05:55 AM   #4  
Fr_Chuck
Christianity Expert
Fr_Chuck is offline
 
Fr_Chuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Atlanta GA
Posts: 24,562
Fr_Chuck has disabled reputation
I will also say that what the other tennant paid is none of your business, and the landlord upon him giving notice had the right to keep that as last months rent, and you got involved into something you should not have.

And if you have a signed written lease, he has to allow you to stay for the 675. Period, nothing he can do about it.
Now the changes, would have to be either allowed by the written lease, or have it in writing,
Never, ever do anything to a rental without asking.

Also NEVER, ever, ever change rental locks without asking the landlord first, often they may require specific brands, types and the such or they have locks on hand they rotate or change for use.

It appears you can either refuse and see if he wants to try to evict you, which I don't think would stand up in court ( but if I am wrong you are sitting on the street also)

It sounds like you need to talk with him more and try to work it out better. Most likely he is mad more over you talking to the other tennant than anything but can't do anything about that, so he does go after you on what he can.
  Reply With Quote
 
     
 
 
Old Feb 24, 2007, 07:01 AM   #5  
excon
Expert
excon is offline
 
excon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: On the outside
Posts: 8,298
excon See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.excon See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.excon See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.excon See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.excon See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.excon See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.excon See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.excon See this member's comment history on his/her Profile page.
Hello Jetzer:

You can't stay there. You KNOW there's going to be trouble. Any landlord who would do that to you or the old tenant, will screw you around at the very first opportunity.

If it was me, I'd move to place where I was wanted, and I would sue the landlord.

excon
  Reply With Quote
 
     


Question Tools Search this Question
Search this Question:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

 
Similar Sponsors

Similar Questions
Question Asker Topic Answers Last Post
Landlord stacovsk Small Claims 2 May 1, 2007 06:09 AM
Landlord not following his own LEASE! totallycrazy Real Estate Law 3 Feb 18, 2007 04:48 AM
Stubborn toddler.....crying for unreasonable issues sapnagoel Children 8 Jan 16, 2007 06:44 AM
landlord responsibilities macbigmama Real Estate Law 8 Oct 19, 2006 07:31 AM
Am I a Landlord? MargieM Real Estate Law 7 May 17, 2006 09:04 AM




Copyright ©2003 - 2007, Ask Me Help Desk.
All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:07 AM.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6 © 2006, Crawlability, Inc.