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There is a time and place for everything....even medical interventions. Are they as necessary as they are used?....certainly not. Does one intervention often beget another? Absolutely there is an increase in odds for such a situation. The vast majority of births need no intervention....however, the pendulum is towards medically managed births right now, and given that, "we" (as a society) are such that interventions, medications, and someone to blame when things don't go well are often expected and demanded.
It's a catch 22....doctors, and many midwives these days who practice much like OBs, are trained for the "what ifs", using procedures across the board to catch the small percentage of women who will have true medical need for intervention. "Our" litigious mindset has driven many to continue to practice this way, and now it is to the point where a good number of those helping women in birth rarely see births that have no intervention whatsoever utilised....it has become the rule instead of the exception. Birth shows on television don't help....while some are quite good at showing "normal" births, many will be very dramatic, after all, they tend to be more entertaining. Unfortunately, this often results in families, who have no previous experience with childbirth, to assertain that lying in bed, having several interventions used, to help mom along, are all part of the birth process. I call these "assembly line" births.
I do see, in pockets around the country, the pendulum slowly shifting, but it takes education, determination, and time for changes in practice to shift. However, I don't see it ever getting to the point where it could be, simply because it is the nature of the beast in this country.
Doctors and many midwives, who happen to work within an OB practice, obviously want things to go well, and do what they feel will propagate that result....but they are also forced by a number of outside influences to toe the line, so to speak, and jump on board with the current climate of how births are often dealt with.
They are not some part of an evil scheme to take away the normacy of birth....the majority are not trying to wield their power and authority, but truly want to secure a healthy mother and healthy baby.....it's just that sometimes their methods are little skewed.....
Just wanted to add onto what J_9 said....the hospitals I work at have nurses that are tremendous, often going to bat for the mothers when their doctor, or even their midwife, wants to jump in "too soon" with an intervention. Their hands are tied at a point however, so there are times where they will be expected to carry out an intervention that they may not personally agree with at that time, for that mother, in that particular situation.
I haven't asked a doctor yet, I really dislike them. Is any mom ever sick in her second week?
In answer to your original post....certainly some mothers will experience symptoms, including nausea, in the second week of pregnancy.
You do not need to have care from anyone....some women choose to go it alone including to the point of having an unasisted birth. The nice thing is that there are choices for women who want to pursue avenues out of the mainstream or within it.
Everyone has a different comfort level, different needs, and different opinions as to the care and involvement of outside sources, or lack there of, that they desire. If you are pregnant, I wish you a joyous pregnancy and birth experience.
I do so agree with other posters, but i also want to point out to you sweet sweet pacgrovemum, you can go through your whole pregnancy with a midwife, and then deliver in a hospital if you would like. This is what I did with my four children. I wanted as natural as I could get. No pain meds, no IV's nothing..... I could have delivered at home if I wanted to but in all honesty, why would I when something very wrong could happen. So I took all my options and finally came to the conclusion that I can have all of my wants and needs. Have a midwife and be safe all at the same time!! No one can make you do anything. They induced me into labor twice out of four times. But the other two times were totally natural, I do have to say I fought with a few people becasue I didnt want an IV.....It took a little coaxing to tell them I had the right to make that decision and they finally gave in.....now that I think about it, I was actually more pissed that they fought with me on it, than i was to even get the damn thing. I know they were just trying to be safe, so I told them I understood their concerns but I am standing my ground. Also I left the hospital early each time, after they all said everything was normal, I felt it was safe to go home early. They also asked me to stay for a longer period of time, I just said I do not want to..... So, if I were to make any assumption on what all of these people have said to you. I would say that you can make your own decisions, there are great doctors and great nurses. BUT you do not have to judge others on their reasons for doing or not doing something you would or wouldn't. We all get to make our own choices. You live with yours and I will live with mine.
all of my life, and my daughter's life aged 7, my mother her mimi, gramma has USED hospitals and nurses and doctors to get medicines to poison us in our bottles and in our mouths and by force as you age, while these same doctors feel the fractures, and the dislocations, and the bruises are photographed by the polivces, and so on a nd so forth and not ONE doctor I ever wrote to has stood up, not even pediatricians, to stop her Munchausen Syndrome by proxy murdering us.and the other abuses and the starvations, all of the doctors ALL of them through\out her lifetime, my sisters mine, my dead brothers, my nephews, my dad post coma, my daughter now..all doctors and nurses never call cps, never cooperate with police, never turn her in, never video camera her stealing , never write me back, never write the DA, never STOP HER
I have to apologize for my previous harshness. As I re-read your post I see that you are a victim of Munchausen's Syndrome By Proxy. Understand that your mother is to blame....NOT the doctors. Munchausen's is very hard to detect and prove. Many HEALTHY mothers, notice I said healthy mothers know what is best for their children. The doctors follow the reports of the mothers and act upon that. Many women who suffer Munchausen's take their children to many doctors so as to not be detected. You even say that the police took photographs.
Did the police prosecute? Are you as bitter with the police as you are with the doctors?
Again, you have been poisoned by your mother, you need to seek some counseling to understand her disease. And I hope, in the end, that she was found out and that she was prosecuted for this and was sentenced to the highest level of punishment. She is the monster, not the doctors.
my sisters mine, my dead brothers, my nephews, my dad post coma, my daughter now..
I just noticed this. You are ALLOWING this to happen to your daughter?
You can be tried as well as your mother if this is caught, you can go to prison with your mother if she is caught and you have not put a stop to it.
Stop blaming the doctors and start blaming your mother. While you are at it, you can blame yourself for letting it happen to your daughter as well.
I'm sorry I sound so harsh, but JEEZY PEET, you come here to complain about doctors, yet you allow your own child to be harmed in the same way you were. I do believe both you and your mother need some intensive counseling.
Yes, she is angry with the injustices that have been done, rightfully so, however, there comes a time when you are an adult and you need to take the necessary action to move passed a trauma and regain your rightful self. No doubt there is an element of guilt since her daughter apparently has been involved as well.
I hope the outburst was cathartic, I hope help is being sought to deal with the past and move onto a future that you can be proud of for both you and your daughter.
With all due respect to J-9, DoulaLC and Startover, we are only compounding the OPs issues by offering further replies. Our OP has already made her own choices and decisions and from the looks of it, most likely she is not willing to change that opinion and no amount of platitudes or further advice will alter that. Its only human nature. You guys are all wonderful for feeling the way you do, you are all very caring individuals and I trust that opinion every time you post helping someone.
With all due respect to J-9, DoulaLC and Startover, we are only compounding the OPs issues by offering further replies. Our OP has already made her own choices and decisions and from the looks of it, most likely she is not willing to change that opinion and no amount of platitudes or further advice will alter that. Its only human nature. You guys are all wonderful for feeling the way you do, you are all very caring individuals and I trust that opinion every time you post helping someone.
You could be correct.....it can be very challenging to overcome past trauma. Takes a tremendous amount of courage and determination. Perhaps something will strike a cord with the OP and it can be the catalyst for change.......perhaps it won't make any difference at all. I do know that often times some people just lurk and read posts....maybe others will get some benefit from the information everyone has shared....from the answers to the inital question if nothing else.
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