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Old Nov 3, 2007, 08:45 AM
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Wife-beating is part of ‘their’ culture.

I ran across this article where Professor Richard Dawkins said:

Political Mavens » IRANIAN MINA AHADI WINS “SECULARIST OF THE YEAR”

“I have long felt that the key to solving the worldwide menace of Islamic terrorism and oppression would eventually be the awakening of women, and Mina Ahadi is a charismatic leader working to that end. The brutal suppression of the rights of women in many countries throughout the Islamic world is an obvious outrage. Slightly less obvious, but just as outrageous, is the supine willingness of western liberals to go along with it. It is worse than supine, it is patronising and condescending. Wife-beating is part of ‘their’ culture. Who are we to condemn their traditions? A religion so insecure as to mandate the death penalty for apostasy is not to be trifled with, and ex-Muslims who stand up and fight deserve our huge admiration and gratitude for their courage. Right out in front of this honourable band is Mina Ahadi. I salute her and congratulate her on this well-deserved award as Secularist of the Year.”

Although the story is about Mina Ahadi, a courageous Iranian dissident who has struggled mightily for the rights of women since she was 16, the propositions I highlighted in bold are the points I wanted some input on. What are your thoughts about them?

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Old Nov 3, 2007, 09:10 AM   #2  
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not an answer to your question, but my wife and i just read khaled hosseini's The Kite Runner and A Thousand Splendid Suns... interesting, well written, historical fiction pieces that will give you some perspective about afghan society and the violence and struggles for those within it. if you havent read them, its worth the time.

always interesting to learn about history when its wrapped around decent writing.
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Before 911, the feminists were screaming about doing something about the Taliban. Perhaps I didn't follow the news carefully enough to catch their acclaim for George Bush.
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I have been saying that the only way for Islam to get out of the Seventh Century is for women to take action. I said this on the other Site since 2002!!!

Power structures don't give away their power!!! People have to fight to get their rights and to end oppression. Case in point is America. We fought for the rights of African-Americans in the 1960's and then for women's rights.

FREEDOM FOR *ALL* IS THE FIGHT OF **LIBERALS**.

FASCISTS DO NOT STAND FOR HUMAN RIGHTS FOR ALL!!! THEY STAND FOR AUTHORITARIAN RULE AND RULERS WHO ARE SUPPORTED BY THE MILITARY AND LARGE CORPORATIONS.
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Wife-beating is part of ‘their’ culture.
Hello DC:

Yeah - those wife beaters! Let's bomb 'em!

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Dark_crow agrees: Perhaps you have missed the news these past few years...we have bombed them
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Old Nov 3, 2007, 03:29 PM   #6  
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I have been saying that the only way for Islam to get out of the Seventh Century is for women to take action. I said this on the other Site since 2002!!!

Power structures don't give away their power!!! People have to fight to get their rights and to end oppression. Case in point is America. We fought for the rights of African-Americans in the 1960's and then for women's rights.

FREEDOM FOR *ALL* IS THE FIGHT OF **LIBERALS**.

FASCISTS DO NOT STAND FOR HUMAN RIGHTS FOR ALL!!! THEY STAND FOR AUTHORITARIAN RULE AND RULERS WHO ARE SUPPORTED BY THE MILITARY AND LARGE CORPORATIONS.
I agree, you have been saying that since 2002; I was just pointing out a lady that was doing something about it.

I agree too that people have to fight for their rights.

I agree with you about Liberals.

I agree with you about Fascist; however, there is no government that is not supported by big business…economically it is impossible.
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In America, Bush the Fascist did nothing when Corporations exported middle class jobs to India and other foreign countries. What a travesty when government, Corporations and right wing religions conspire and condone the transferring of middle class jobs out of America.

That is pure Fascism, PURE. War on the middle class, as it were, by a government set up *OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE*.
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In America, Bush the Fascist did nothing when Corporations exported middle class jobs to India and other foreign countries. What a travesty when government, Corporations and right wing religions conspire and condone the transferring of middle class jobs out of America.

That is pure Fascism, PURE. War on the middle class, as it were, by a government set up *OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE*.
My Dearest sweet cheeks …it would have been Fascist to not allow free trade. And it is not middle-class jobs that are going, but rather jobs that put people below the poverty level, for the most part. And our growing economy absorbed them into the services industry at the same low level earnings.
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You are lying, middle class jobs are going. I'm not saying that lower paying jobs aren't going, too.

I'm not interested in you demeaning me with cutsie names.

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ETWolverine agrees: No, you'd just rather demean yourself with these nonsensical posts that have no basis in reality. Unemployment is still at record low levels. If the Middle Class is losing jobs to overseas companies, how would joblessness be at record lows?
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Old Nov 3, 2007, 09:12 PM   #10  
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I am going to open an martial arts school at their place...women need to fight back, I am willing to teach them hand by hand.
Or should I import hand guns to the women there?
Anyway...I might be able to start a business there.

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BABRAM agrees: Ah! I'd bet your skills are good. I'm not so young anymore, but I'd can assist you with Chin-Na and Escrima using the Jeet Kune Do philosophy.
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