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Old Feb 24, 2008, 11:43 PM
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Why is the South (of the US) Ignorant?

Hello, I hope you are doing well. Please, let me explain the topic of this thread before I get attacked.

As a person living in California, it seems as if many people (not all, of course) who are raised and live in the Southern states of the US are still ignorant when it comes to a variety of issues, even though it is approximately a century and a half since the American Civil War. I am looking for an unbiased answer to this, because I really do not know much about the south and am really interested in finding out. This will be a starting point for much more research that I will conduct on my own.

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Old Feb 26, 2008, 08:20 AM   #21  
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We all should remember at least one thing; The media people characterize ANYONE who disagrees with them as "ignorant".

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kindj agrees: You got that right!! As James Hetfield puts it, "Freedom no longer frees you." I think he may have been onto something...
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 08:23 AM   #22  
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What an ignorant question!

Then why did you bother?

Actually, if you read the follow-ups, the questioner is pondering the obviously misinterpreted actions and attitudes of people living in the southern states. He/she makes a valid point, as the responders have demonstrated by deconstructing the misinformed stereotypes.

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frangipanis agrees: that's how read the question too... it was just a bit clumsy. Fascinating thread by the way from an outsider's point of view.
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 01:15 PM   #23  
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Please note that Texas is the only state with a legal right to secede from the Union; refer to the Texas- American Annexation Treaty of 1848. We Texans love y'all, but hack us off one time to many… and buh bye. There isn't a thing out there that we need and don't have.

Yes. People often forget the historical retrospect that six flags have flown over Texas.

I've lived in Las Vegas going on 12 years. I can only imagine that many Texans are having some measure of disgust for NAFTA and the Super Highway. What is the consequence and compensation for having property in the mapped path? Are you hearing of fair value offers for loss of land, homes, businesses, and what of the hardships, relocation? I know this a controversial political subject, but my interest is in how the State and/or Federal levels of our government are going to handle compensation packages for those effected with notice of zoning and annexation, etc...
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the question is why are people in the south so ignorant. i was born in nc and i have lived in many places, but my home is in alabama. i despise the thought of slavery. i believe that every man should work, and not spit and kick on someone to do it for them. oh! what they must have gone through. but, there is ignorance all over. there are things that confuse southerners about the north and northerners about the south. i'm proud to be an american and southern. we tend to have very strong moral values (this is the bible belt) most of our kids still say yes mam and yes sir. our women are tough and beautiful or men can lead us through any hardship. we are educated and we've got each others back. however i love snow up north and the mountains also.

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Old Feb 26, 2008, 02:36 PM   #25  
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Or as someone said, "American by birth, Southern by the grace of God."

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Old Feb 26, 2008, 06:11 PM   #26  
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Hello, I hope you are doing well. Please, let me explain the topic of this thread before I get attacked.

As a person living in California, it seems as if many people (not all, of course) who are raised and live in the Southern states of the US are still ignorant when it comes to a variety of issues, even though it is approximately a century and a half since the American Civil War. I am looking for an unbiased answer to this, because I really do not know much about the south and am really interested in finding out. This will be a starting point for much more research that I will conduct on my own.

Thank you.


"bless your heart, " you call Southerners ignorant while admitting that you really don't know much about the South.

I'm southern born, northeast raised and schooled, back in the south going on 14 years as an ethnic minority.

- There is as much prejudice and racism in dowstate NY as there is in the South. Personal experience. The difference is that rural prejudice is from ignorance, lack of exposure. In the urban setting prejudice is from ideas despite exposure to diversity.

- The difference you cited is more rural vs urban. Small town rural upstate NY has more in common with small town rural TN than they do with any of NYC's 5 boroughs.

- Most Southeners I know actually take the second amendment seriously. Guns are used more so for deer and small game hunting to eat versus inner city gang warfare.

- Slavery was an issue antebellum because of the economic implications, but the vast majority of the Confederates did not own slaves. This was a state vs federal rights issue.

- Where recruiting runs strongest | csmonitor.com
40 % of military recruits are from the south.

- Lincoln and Jefferson Davis were both born in KY

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George_1950 agrees: Very good; especially on the slave owners point, as I would guess most of the Confederates were not landowners, much less slave owners. Lincoln fought to preserve the Union, not to free slaves, although he detested slavery.
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 08:37 PM   #27  
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VICTORLY -#1 as you stated ( YOU HAVE ONLY BEEN IN 2 STATES< (NEVER I N A SOUTHERN STATE , I have been every state in the union except for one9 WASHINGTON) I am truly a reble by heart and birth, Above mentioned about some of the presidents of the great USA, there were also some from the great state of TN, I think you have as they say in the south , opened a big can of worms or a real big can of WIP A_ _. THere are more racist in the north then there is in the south, and CITY KIDS ARE downright LAZY , They dont know the real meaning of work, every one of them should put about a month of real farm life in befor saying how ignorant we are and stop to realize that us ignorant people help feed them the food that help keep them alive. AS for gun control - Where has all the crazy shootings and killings happen??? where ever you are getting your facts from, they did not know what the real facts are or you are reading them wrong or are to ignort to understand what you are reading I cant understand where you are getting you ( STATISTICS at) BEFOR YOU DO ANY MORE OF THIS ,I THINK YOU NEED TO GET A HISTORY BOOK AND ENCYP> AND STUDY IT < AND EVEN BETTER YET COME AND LIVE IN THE SOUTH FOR A FEW YEARS AND I DONT MEAN JUST ONE STATE< YOU"D LEARN A LOT AND CHANGE A LOT OF YOUR WRONG FEELINGS ::: A LOT OF THE THINGS YOU ENJOY TODAY WERE INVENTED HERE IN THE SOUTH OR MADE HERE IN THE SOUTH < THERE ARE MORE SIOUTHERN MEN & WOMEN IN THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES then from the northern states, ALSO DURNING THE VET NAM SO CALLED WAR < THE ONES THAT BURNT THEIR CARDS AND WENT TO CANADA JUST TO KEEP FROM GOING IN THE MILITARY TO FIGHT FOR FREEDOM< AND THEIR COUNTRY WERE FROM THE NORTH< THEN CAME BACK TO THE USA WHEN IT WAS OVER AND WANTED AMMESTASTY> WHICH THE PRESIDENT GAVE THEM. IF I HAD BEEN THE PRESIDENT I WOULD HAVE TOIL THEM > IF THEY CANT FIGHT < TO MAINTAIN THER COUNTRYS FREEDOM <TO GO BACK WHERE THEY HAD BEEN BECAUSE THEY DID NOT DESERVE IT ( FREEDOM ) AND WHAT AMERICA ALWYS STOOD UP FOR . Theres an old saying here in the south and thats :: ( REBELS SAVE YOUR CONFEDRET MONEY <FOR THE SOUTH SHALL RISE AGAIN>):::!! GOOD AND GOOD LUCK ( YOULL NEED IT ) GOD BLESS < GOOD OLE SOUTHERN SAYING>:: F.B.E. PS A LOT OF YOU HAVE GIVEN REAL GOOD ANSWERS TO HIS STUPID QUESTION < GOOD GOING::::: !!!!! F.B.E.

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Old Feb 27, 2008, 10:56 AM   #28  
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VICTORLY -#1 as you stated ( YOU HAVE ONLY BEEN IN 2 STATES< (NEVER I N A SOUTHERN STATE , I have been every state in the union except for one9 WASHINGTON) I am truly a reble by heart and birth, Above mentioned about some of the presidents of the great USA, there were also some from the great state of TN, I think you have as they say in the south , opened a big can of worms or a real big can of WIP A_ _. THere are more racist in the north then there is in the south, and CITY KIDS ARE downright LAZY , They dont know the real meaning of work, every one of them should put about a month of real farm life in befor saying how ignorant we are and stop to realize that us ignorant people help feed them the food that help keep them alive. AS for gun control - Where has all the crazy shootings and killings happen??? where ever you are getting your facts from, they did not know what the real facts are or you are reading them wrong or are to ignort to understand what you are reading I cant understand where you are getting you ( STATISTICS at) BEFOR YOU DO ANY MORE OF THIS ,I THINK YOU NEED TO GET A HISTORY BOOK AND ENCYP> AND STUDY IT < AND EVEN BETTER YET COME AND LIVE IN THE SOUTH FOR A FEW YEARS AND I DONT MEAN JUST ONE STATE< YOU"D LEARN A LOT AND CHANGE A LOT OF YOUR WRONG FEELINGS ::: A LOT OF THE THINGS YOU ENJOY TODAY WERE INVENTED HERE IN THE SOUTH OR MADE HERE IN THE SOUTH < THERE ARE MORE SIOUTHERN MEN & WOMEN IN THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES then from the northern states, ALSO DURNING THE VET NAM SO CALLED WAR < THE ONES THAT BURNT THEIR CARDS AND WENT TO CANADA JUST TO KEEP FROM GOING IN THE MILITARY TO FIGHT FOR FREEDOM< AND THEIR COUNTRY WERE FROM THE NORTH< THEN CAME BACK TO THE USA WHEN IT WAS OVER AND WANTED AMMESTASTY> WHICH THE PRESIDENT GAVE THEM. IF I HAD BEEN THE PRESIDENT I WOULD HAVE TOIL THEM > IF THEY CANT FIGHT < TO MAINTAIN THER COUNTRYS FREEDOM <TO GO BACK WHERE THEY HAD BEEN BECAUSE THEY DID NOT DESERVE IT ( FREEDOM ) AND WHAT AMERICA ALWYS STOOD UP FOR . Theres an old saying here in the south and thats :: ( REBELS SAVE YOUR CONFEDRET MONEY <FOR THE SOUTH SHALL RISE AGAIN>):::!! GOOD AND GOOD LUCK ( YOULL NEED IT ) GOD BLESS < GOOD OLE SOUTHERN SAYING>:: F.B.E. PS A LOT OF YOU HAVE GIVEN REAL GOOD ANSWERS TO HIS STUPID QUESTION < GOOD GOING::::: !!!!! F.B.E.


a little harsh but what can we do when we are who we are. i can't say that all of anybody is this or that but i can say, i love that my kids run through the sprinklers, catch lightening bugs, eat watermelon on the tail gait so we can spray it off with the hose, and aren't afraid to get dirty. my little girl can take down a boy any minute if she has to. my son, who's 8 can tell you just when the peas and corn are ready to pick out of the garden and he knows you have to cut the okra off and not pick it or your gonna be in some pain. they both are very hard workers. they are a b honor roll students and can come home and take care of more chores ( bringing in firewood, feeding the dog, setting the table, helping there daddy skin a deer or clean and filet a fish)than alot of kids being raised more modern. we take the boat out to the river when it's warm and swim or fish all day.
yes we are fighters, not saying we like to hurt people, but with all of the suing going on, i think a good old fashioned butt kickin' never hurt anybody(it would put them straight faster). i think the reason we are the way we are is maybe the turnip greens, who knows lol. i don't expect other people to understand what i'm saying. i'm living the good life.
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Babram- Does texas still hold the right in its stste const. to withdraw from the USA and dive-ied it self into 3 seperate states of it's own ???? I left south West Texas when I was 14 and I can remember that being thout in school , My dad was a railroad section forman ot the southern pacific railroad. Do you know where marthon and sanderson texas is??? the section was just about 1/2 way between them ,out in gods country ( in the middle of the desart. ::: F.B.E. GOD BLESS
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Victorly, I glad this is purely for research, however I don't think you're going to get an unbiased response. Most people from the south are pretty sensitive about this. I wonder where this stereotype of southerners being ignorant comes from. My opinion, is that the use of the English language has to do with it. Southerners refer to Northerners as speaking "proper" whereas, proper english may be the difference in inflections, dialect, and so on. Southerners tend to leave off articles, and linking verbs. Also, I would think movies have been influential, such as that movie, can't think of the name, with Spencer Tracey where creationism vs darwinism was put on trial, in the South and the people in that film were portrayed as less than intelligient because they accepted literally the words in the bible.
Guns...I can't give an unbiased response. Even if some people aren't hunting they seem to like them. I knew an old man who walked around with a pistol sticking out of his belt and no one said a word. Maybe they don't trust law enforcement. I can see why. Also we had a governor once in Mississippi, Gov. Fordice, he routinely carried a pistol in a holster while out walking the dog downtown.
I hope this helps your research.
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