Who has a better chance of winning ?

tomder55 · Feb 8, 2008, 06:49 AM

McCain who has already campaigned from the center and needs to convince the right wing that he is the best candidate left for them ?

or

Obama and Evita who have drifted further left and the campaign progressed trying to attract the wing ?

Dark_crow · Feb 12, 2008, 12:40 PM

"Oh, Che can you see..." Gotta love it

You know how it is in political elections, sometimes people get carried away with…symbolism over substance. I suppose the people who put up the image was just trying to symbolize “Change.” But who the Hell knows.

I expect when his staffers come in they will redecorate with something more appropriate.

kp2171 · Feb 12, 2008, 01:01 PM

wouldnt it be interesting if obama stays neck and neck, then loses the nomination to hillary due to superdelegates? talk about yet again another bunch of "disenfranchised" dems, only this time from within their own house.

uhmm...

i cant even begin to decide who will win. the gop'ers think the dems are liberal idiots who cant pay for their bigger govt and the dems think the gop has blindly followed the prez into another round of deficit spending. hmmm.. could they both be right??? =)

this is the point when my wife says we are playing I&A. meaning idiots and a$$holes. sit back and label. its not too hard. some are even I and A.

i think its unwise to blow off obama's chances. g.h.w.bush had a lot more experience and was an incumbent and lost to the "charismatic" candidate. if he loses the nomination to hillary, even though there will be some discouraged, the dems have been showing up in record numbers. heck, i saw three rep's switch to dem at the caucus to vote for obama. dont care if you dont agree with him... he seems to be able to raise money and charge people. that goes a long way in an election.

not to mention some gop'ers are saying hillary is actually more conservative than mccain and are willing to let the dems take the hit if hillary gets the nom and the economy keeps turning down.

i live in iowa. first in the nation to screw the nation. there is something wrong with the system when a significant number of candidates drop out within the first dozen or less states.

also, if the far right gop'ers play the "i cant vote for mccain" card, theyd better still go to the polls or they could lose a lot of other representation.

and lets not forget the likely supreme court nominations that should be coming up in the next term or two.

so if mccain gets the nomination, which he should, does he choose a conservative for vp to draw in the party or does he choose someone like lieberman to try to draw in indies?

speechlesstx · Feb 12, 2008, 01:52 PM

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You know how it is in political elections, sometimes people get carried away with…symbolism over substance. I suppose the people who put up the image was just trying to symbolize “Change.” But who the Hell knows.

I don't know DC, with all of "dictator huggers" in Hollywood that love Chavez, Fidel, the Mahdi Hatter...

NeedKarma · Feb 12, 2008, 01:58 PM

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I don't know DC, with all of "dictator huggers" in Hollywood that love Chavez, Fidel, the Mahdi Hatter...

More lies.

speechlesstx · Feb 12, 2008, 02:30 PM

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More lies.

Tsk, tsk, NK. Surely you should know by now if I make the claim I'm going to be able support it.

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American filmmaker Oliver Stone praised President Hugo Chavez on Friday as the Venezuelan leader launched a mission to airlift three hostages held by leftist rebels out of Colombia’s jungles.

Stone, standing near Chavez, said he was working on a film and hoped to accompany the humanitarian operation into Colombia.

“I’m doing a documentary about Latin America and also about North America. You have to wait around to see it,” Stone told reporters. He said he planned to take part in the mission, calling it a “beautiful, great process.”

“I’m hoping it works. I’m all for this,” Stone said.

The Oscar-winning director, who made a 2003 documentary about Cuban President Fidel Castro as well as the movie “Platoon,” called Chavez a “great man” and said “I’m a fan.”

Urging Stone to speak with reporters, Chavez told him in accented English: “The girls want to see you!” He joked that Stone was President Bush’s “envoy.”

“There are some good Americans. That’s why I’m here, to remind you,” Stone said.

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British supermodel Naomi Campbell has interviewed Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez, describing him as a "rebel angel" who is unafraid to speak his mind but poses no threat to democracy...

"I'd always heard Hugo Chavez was a people's president and I wanted to see if that was true... I didn't want to judge Chavez, or probe him for his political views, even though he gave them freely," she wrote.

Chavez also has fans in Kevin Spacey, Sean Penn and Danny Glover. Penn of course hasn't found a dictator he doesn't love.

speechlesstx · Feb 12, 2008, 02:34 PM

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i would like Obama to win because he would be the first black prz

Is that the main reason?

Dark_crow · Feb 12, 2008, 02:39 PM

How about Hanoi Jane Fonda, I mean there is just no end to them.

NeedKarma · Feb 12, 2008, 02:43 PM

The amount of repugs that are member of White Power groups is stunning, most will deny the Holocaust as well.

speechlesstx · Feb 12, 2008, 03:01 PM

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The amount of repugs that are member of White Power groups is stunning, most will deny the Holocaust as well.

Good comeback, NK.

speechlesstx · Feb 12, 2008, 03:46 PM

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al1012 agrees: what is wrong with Obama? i dont know whats going on but i am slowly getting into it

Obama is a swell guy I'm sure, but first of all he is the most liberal senator in congress which goes against my every fiber, and he is extremely vague. As I pointed out earlier the Democratic campaign appears to be about nothing but who can win what group of people. Where's the substance? Jonah Goldberg says it "boils down to who is a more authentic agent of “change.” What does that mean? What does he stand for?