McCain who has already campaigned from the center and needs to convince the right wing that he is the best candidate left for them ?

or

Obama and Evita who have drifted further left and the campaign progressed trying to attract the wing ?

Allheart

Wow Tom,

Thats alot of work you did and I thank you. I will take the time to read and hopefully absorb what is there.

I'd really like to get a grip and clear vision of many things. This being one. So I will consider your great efforts another resource to consider.

When the news is on - hubby translates for me...bless his soul he means well, but I can't get my head around some of it so I end up not knowing what to think.

Thank you!

excon

Hello again, All:

Yeah, that tom is a great researcher. She sure ain't great......

But, I'll make your decision an easy one for you. If you like the war in Iraq, McCain is your man. If you don't, Hillary is your chick.

excon

Allheart

Ex - I still have to read all of Tom's research.

But that's how I was leaning towards Hillary or Obama. So I was focusing on Hillary to start and watched her speak, I like how she handled herself, the things I understood her to say, I liked, so I was starting to feel good.

But then there seems to be this underground static associated with her. But then there is any canadate I guess.

Anyway, I have homework to do .

One thing I do know, is I do not want this war anymore. I want them home.

Hillary said in a structred manner - she was going to start bringing them home and McCain said, well you all know what he said.

Thanks Ex

NeedKarma

I like Obama, because he's not like all the others and a change is definetely needed. Too bad about Ron Paul.

tomder55

Are you so sure about what she will do ? ....or for that matter what Obama will do ? Oh they say they will withdraw alright but when they were pinned down during the debates none of the Democrats would commit to withdrawal even as late as the end of their 1st 4 year term. Both Hillary and Obama also have pledged long term US presence in the region ...perhaps not in Iraq ..they prefer to use vague terms like strategic withdrawal to places in the periphery .

Allheart

I like him too and the expereince thing, I think is actually a no thing. He can just surround himself with outstanding individuals, like they all try and do.

Hillary caught my interest on a couple of issues and I wanted to examine them both.

Actually, I took the poll on the web, even though it was dated it came out

1) Obamba
2) HIllary
3) McCain

I used to LOVE McCain and it's not like I dislike him, but some things just need to end.

NeedKarma

McCain's whole "100 year war in Iraq" statement is a big turnoff.

Allheart

See this is what sends me in a swirl.

Why can't they just say what the are actually going to do....If the win, then the American people are fully behind them....If they don't....then there policies are NOT what the American people want, so concede the loss and count their millions and go do good somewhere else.

Why do they have to make is so darn difficult. I know it's naive to want an open and upfront canadate by darn, they get you to vote for them and then just run and do what they want anyway? How is that a democracy.

How gosh darn hard would it be to stand up and say what they truly wish to do.

Is it more complicated than that? Am I oversimplifing?

speechlesstx

Yeah, it means he won't cut and run, he'll do whatever it takes. That is a really big turnoff.

speechlesstx

Excellent, tom. Speaking of the Jewish community and Hillary, this is how Jonah Goldberg described her sudden onset of emotions:

LOL, exactly right. He's also right on the differences between the Democratic and Republican races. For Republicans "at least it’s an argument about something." For the Dems, "a campaign about nothing."