 | | | What did Obama Do Right & What did McCain Do Wrong
Asked Nov 6, 2008, 07:25 AM
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27 Answers In a historical presidential election, I'm hearing that Obama ran the best campaign in Democratic history. On the other hand McCain faces a list of things he did wrong. Was Sarah Palin his downfall? Did he handle the economic crisis wrong? Voice your opinion Thread Summary |
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Nov 6, 2008, 07:51 AM
| | | What obama did right? As a democrat he by default had the major networks on his side. With the dumbing down of America and the major networks on his side, he was a shoe in. If you look at his speaches, they are full of "uhhhs", and "ands". This is not a man who can carry on an intelligent conversation without a teleprompter. This is a man that was able to read and then spew out what he had just read. His speech writers were great. They stay on two or three basic points over the past two years of his campaign and sold his party line to 51% of Americans. Luckily in four years we may have a chance to correct this grievous mistake. | | |  | Expert | |
Nov 6, 2008, 07:56 AM
| | | Hello Donald:
Obama won because he's good, and pure and right and everybody saw it - ceptin donn above.
Ifin you don't believe that, George W. Bush did such a terrible job, the country just didn't want to give the Republicans another chance. Makes sense to me.
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Nov 6, 2008, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 450donn This is not a man who can carry on an intelligent conversation without a teleprompter. . | And Bush was a president who couldn't carry on an intellgent conversation even with a teleprompter. Quote:
Originally Posted by 450donn This is a man that was able to read and then spew out what he had just read. His speech writers were great. They stay on two or three basic points over the past two years of his campaign and sold his party line to 51% of Americans. | This is ridiculous. Speechwriters are not ghost writers. They reflect the candidate, not the other way around (at least in most cases). Quote:
Originally Posted by 450donn Luckily in four years we may have a chance to correct this grievous mistake. | We didn't correct the greivous mistake of 2000 in 2004, why should 2012 be different?
To answer the original question, frankly, I don't think Obama did anything great or McCain did anything bad. I think Bush screwed the pooch so badly that any democrat would have won. | | |  | Ultra Member | |
Nov 6, 2008, 08:16 AM
| | | I have not completed my research on this yet and won't until the final count is in .
It appears that a significant number of voters who voted for President Bush in 2004 sat out of this election. McCain did not duplicate the "get out the vote " efforts of President Bush ,and not even close to the efforts that the Obama campaign made.
This seems to bear out in red states where the so called record turn out did not happen according to reports I've read. I think you saw intensity on one side and not the other.
I noticed this 1st when I was in San Diego this summer. Obama operatives were all over the streets during the Comi-con convention signing up registrants as fast as they could . I told my wife then that he was going to win .
McCain was the candidate on the Republican side because he was the last one standing . But there never really was an enthusiasm for him by the base. Had he picked someone other than Palin (who did energize the base ) his numbers would've been worse.
Finally ;McCain would've done better if there was not the economic duwnturn right after the conventions. | | |  | Expert | |
Nov 6, 2008, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55 Finally ;McCain would've done better if there was not the economic duwnturn right after the conventions. | Hello again, Donald:
THIS is the standard thinking in Republican circles.... However, I disagree.
Great leaders need great challenges. The economic meltdown was such a challenge. Had McCain ACTUALLY shown leadership during that time, I think he would be president elect today, instead of the episode hurting him.
He SPOKE some leadership stuff. He SAID he was going to suspend his campaign, put off the debate and fly to Washington to rescue the country. Had he done so, I believe that HE would be president elect TODAY.
However, he didn't rescue the economy. He didn't suspend the campaign, and he didn't put off the debate. In fact, the right wing of his OWN party defeated him. He couldn't even LEAD them.
Today, it's widley perceived by MOST Americans, that the bailout was/is a mistake. Had McCain LEAD that group of Americans, he'd, again, be president elect today.
Everybody was watching, and he didn't fool anybody.
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Nov 6, 2008, 08:33 AM
| | | This is from an editorial at Investors Business Daily : Quote:
Overall, two-thirds of voters between 18 and 29 voted for Obama, an unprecedented turnout. In contrast, the only demographic that voted for McCain as a group was voters 60 and older.
The previous high point in voter turnout among youth was 1972, during the Vietnam War. Students in this election also were energized by their opposition to war, which of course worked in favor of Obama, who's vowed to withdraw troops from Iraq.
But Obama also devised a clever plan to sign students up to vote and get them to the polls on Election Day.
First, he hired the former head of MTV's Rock the Vote as his youth vote director. Then he brought a couple thousand college students to Chicago for training in something called Camp Obama, where they learned organizing techniques they could take back to their campuses to fire up thousands more kids to vote for Obama.
Obama also used Facebook, texting and other high-tech social networking tools to connect students in support of his campaign. In fact, a Facebook founder joined the Obama campaign.
Obama learned early that the key to getting kids to the polls is peer-to-peer contact and networks. Robo-calls and mailings don't work with these voters. He also appealed to their self-interest by combining rewarding community service — high among youth's priorities — with pay for college. This was music to their ears.
Finally, one of the biggest barriers to young people voting in the U.S. Is registration. Obama made it easier by deploying campers to sign up students on campus. He also steered them to Rock the Vote's Web site, which offers a national form for registering online, as well as GoVoteAbsentee.org, which college students created to help kids navigate the various state deadlines for early voting.
This helps explain the enthusiasm gap among young voters. Half who supported Obama were very enthused about his candidacy, while just 11% of McCain's young supporters said the same of his.
The Republican National Committee ought to study the successful Obama model for turning out younger voters...
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Nov 6, 2008, 08:36 AM
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Had McCain ACTUALLY shown leadership during that time, I think he would be president elect today, instead of the episode hurting him.
| Actually had McCain sided with the Republicans who opposed TAARP he would've been better off.On that we agree . By voting for the bailout he lent credence to the false claim that the economic downturn was a Republican policy error .
You talk of leadership ?Obama as he has often done in his short political career,was a no-show. | | |  | Computer Expert and Renaissance Man | |
Nov 6, 2008, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55 This is from an editorial at Investors Business Daily : | Ok, so Obama adroitly made the most of his power base. He used the tools available to him to maxmize his potential.
What that says to me is that he showed presidential ability. | | |  | Expert | |
Nov 6, 2008, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55 Obama as he has often done in his short political career,was a no-show. | Hello again, tom:
I won't argue that either. But, why show up if the other guy is self destructing?
However, THAT tactic might, indeed, have shown leadership over the long haul, cause you can't lead if you don't win.
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