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I guess if you say something long enough some people will believe it. I didn't think we were that dumb, though. You DO remember the Supreme Court Justice who said that he can't describe porn, but he knows it when he sees it.
Well, I know torture when I see it, and we torture. I don't care how many times the decider decides to change the meaning of words.
Go ahead, tell me how wonking a guy upside his head repeatedly ain’t torture.
So excon, what is the alternative to torture, and still get infomation in a timely manner?
I think the right wingers have made valid cases.
How about this; pleasure?
First we give them meth, opiods, sex, good food, cigarettes/ nicotine , caffeine [ chocolate ] , alcohol, etc...
Then we ask for information and if we don't get information, they get benadryl, tyelenol, celibacy, mre[s], chewing gum, and o'douls.
So excon, what is the alternative to torture, and still get infomation in a timely manner?
I think the right wingers have made valid cases.
How about this; pleasure?
First we give them meth, opiods, sex, good food, cigarettes/ nicotine , caffeine [ chocolate ] , alcohol, etc...
Then we ask for information and if we don't get information, they get benadryl, tyelenol, celibacy, mre[s], chewing gum, and o'douls.
Grace and Peace
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So excon, what is the alternative to torture, and still get infomation in a timely manner?
I think the right wingers have made valid cases.
How about this; pleasure?
First we give them meth, opiods, sex, good food, cigarettes/ nicotine , caffeine [ chocolate ] , alcohol, etc...
Then we ask for information and if we don't get information, they get benadryl, tyelenol, celibacy, mre[s], chewing gum, and o'douls.
Grace and Peace
Wondergirl offered a batch of cookies...
these people don't have the same response mechanisms that we would consider to be normal..
offer fifty million dollars and you'll get a response from the west... offer fifty camels and you'll get the sand jerks attention. It will always be a matter of value systems. I really don't mean to demean, but our values and cultures are so far apart...
these people don't have the same response mechanisms that we would consider to be normal..
offer fifty million dollars and you'll get a response from the west... offer fifty camels and you'll get the sand jerks attention. It will always be a matter of value systems. I really don't mean to demean, but our values and cultures are so far apart...
It’s been awhile since I’ve heard anything so racist…
It’s been awhile since I’ve heard anything so racist…
You collect a very jaundice view of society! You change your avatar from an image of Christianity to something that you wish to represent decadence! How can anyone trust where you're coming from?!? You're very title...depicts your aversion from society!!
TALK TO THE HAND, DARKSTUFF!! YOUR STUPIDITY IS BLOCKED!!!
Do i have to bring up the case of David Hicks again that all you right wingers have ignored over and over when i have brought it up in the past. Numerous threads i have discussed his case on and each time you simply skim over it.
You tortured him, got nothing and let him go on a guilty plea on charges you made up to prosecute him. The torture got nothing. As excon has pointed out this is just one of many cases.
Elliot you twisted Excons definition to suit your own argument. And it could be seen straight through. To relate his definition of torture to your summer camp was as ridiculous a thing as i have read in this thread. Ill go with the Con and say it was a win for him!
SK, Tell us where your David was , how he got selected for a trip to GITMO, what he said or didn't say to keep him there, what "we" did or didn't do, how he left, what happened to him once he left, and what's he up to now. Please be as explicit as you are compliant....
**edit** David Matthew Hicks (born 7 August 1975) is an Australian who, after five years detention by the United States government under suspicion of involvement with terrorism, became the first Guantánamo Bay detainee to be convicted under the US Military Commissions Act of 2006.
Ive brought it up before when you guys try and defend your pathetic president and his men. Ive brought it up to show the incompetence of your previous attorney general and his unlawful Military Commissions Act. Ive brought it up before when you guys have preached what a wonderful and comfortable place Gitmo is for these terrorists. Ive brought it up many times and each time it has been ignored. Frankly i cant be bothered going through it all over again for you to twist and distort it like you no doubt will. Ill provide a few links below that you will tear apart and we'll agree to disagree if you decide to read them.
He was tortured for nothing. You'll say it was for something but really know you got nothing.
You might also want to do some research on Major Michael Mori, his military attorney and the treatment he has received because he stood up for the rights of his client.
Thats all i can be bothered with right now because any discussion here just gets twisted to support your current regime.
I've never been to GITMO.. But, neither have I been bombed outta of the Twin Towers... I guess I don't have enough perspective yet. Do you feel comfortable were you live? I'm not trying to twist anything! But based upon the links YOU'VE provided, I think I think that hick's had more to run from than to hide!
No where, NO WHERE, in anything I've read in these links, regarding this guy, did he say he knew that he put himself in harms way and admitted he engaged with people's opposed to the US and our endeavors. You concern yourself with how many times you brought this up...
American or un-American... Freedom wanting or not freedom wanting....
Personally I think David Hicks was in custody took way too long, but the guy chose to plead guilty and signed official court documents denying any abuse. Has he changed his story, yet again?!
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