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Jul 19, 2009, 05:30 PM
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| | | Taxing Cannabis Some people argue that the reason cannabis is not legal is because it cannot be taxed. Sure someone can grow tons of plants and reap a huge benefit of cash from it, and the government cant do anything about it cuz its legal. However, were forgetting about the civil institutions we set up to battle these greedy ploys. The earth is full of fish, we could get a boat, pick up our rods, and go fishing, sell them and make a profit just for sitting on the water and getting drunk. But no, weve got boating licenses and fishing licenses. Isnt a license a perfect way to regulate and tax cannabis? If the goverment were to set up a civil institution in which one could obtain a license to grow cannabis, and pay annual dues to a tax agency, havent we just solved our problem. Needless to say we dont even have to get into the "harmful effects" in which there are few, as opposed to some of these over the counter pain pills that "May have some side affects which include nausea, heartburn, cancer, tumors, and strokes"... Not only will the government get money and taxes, they can regulate and view your production through the use of paper trails and web records. Also, this would be a great economical stimulis setting up small and large businesses togrow and sell cannabis, we would have many more people going through colleges and university for biology, botany and entrepreneurial skills to open these buisnesses. We would have a huge cash crop. We would have a huge export rate (im from Canada), and im sure many countries would follow suit if the super powers are doing it. Cannabis can be used for clothing, food, plastics, ropes and string, propelling agents for cars and vehicles instaed of harmful gas. You can build and run a car almost strickly from hemp, besides the frame of the car. There is such a huge investment waiting to be realized, so much medical potential, so much economical potential, so much recreational potential, tourism potential...and heres a way to regulate and tax cannabis. Does this sound effect to you? | | | | | | |
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Jul 19, 2009, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by artlady I'm and old hippie and civil disobedience is my claim to fame but I still don't want them involved.
I take my chances,I smoke when I want and where I live cops could care less.
If they bust you they usually take some and you get a smaller count in court.
In New York,it is called a syntax and it is on cigs,beer ,boats,you name it. | Ah you grew up in the good ol era. Well my perspective sees regulations telling kids they cant do anything for generations, and they grow up thinking that. But come one, our government is in place to BE rebelled against. We have a say, and we have the words, but dare we speak them? Im worried about the government getting in on it too...but if its , everyone goes back to closet grows and buying from the guy on the corner, and the government institution withers away right? |
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Jul 19, 2009, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by follow please Are you just being thick headed? Im in canada...not the states. Im nowhere near California. The CANADIAN government has not legalized it, and the CANADIAN government doesnt have a tax system for it. This is my proposal to my dilemma, and im looking for INTELLIGENT people to respond and tell my if they agree with it, NOT if its happening elsewhere.... | Why you YELLING?
Have they decriminalized in Canada ?
I had a guy on here a while back who said he was getting Gov. weed and it sucked,the Canadian weed.
There must be something going on. |
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Jul 19, 2009, 06:08 PM
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| Hello again, Mr. follow:
I dunno. You want somebody intelligent. I'm him. You say you want something to start. I say it's started. I guess you're pissed because it hasn't started where YOU are yet.
I'm just telling you, that there's been a SEA CHANGE in the conversation about pot in just the last year. MAJOR things are in the wind.
So you tell me you want it to happen, and I'm telling you it IS happening, and you don't like that news.
Here. Go smoke some of this. It's good Seattle kush. Maybe it'll mellow you out a little bit.
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Jul 19, 2009, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by follow please Ah you grew up in the good ol era. Well my perspective sees regulations telling kids they cant do anything for generations, and they grow up thinking that. But come one, our government is in place to BE rebelled against. We have a say, and we have the words, but dare we speak them? Im worried about the government getting in on it too...but if its , everyone goes back to closet grows and buying from the guy on the corner, and the government institution withers away right? | If you want to make a change go to the NORML web site and they will give you advice on how to make a change. |
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Jul 19, 2009, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by excon Hello again, Mr. follow:
I dunno. You want somebody intelligent. I'm him. You say you want something to start. I say it's started. I guess you're pissed because it hasn't started where YOU are yet.
I'm just telling you, that there's been a SEA CHANGE in the conversation about pot in just the last year. MAJOR things are in the wind.
So you tell me you want it to happen, and I'm telling you it IS happening, and you don't like that news.
Here. Go smoke some of this. It's good Seattle kush. Maybe it'll mellow you out a little bit.
excon | Yeah i see your point, thanks man, itll make a nice mix with the sour diesel i just picked up. Im just pissed and ranting because of the digusting image it still has in society, and the anti-drug money that gets spent on it, when my school doesnt provide me with text books  |
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Jul 19, 2009, 06:15 PM
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| I know you don't want to hear about other countries but you might find this article interesting even if it doesn't answer your question.
The part about not being legal but tolerated is the way I see it here in the US because while it is not legal the law does tend to turn the other way unless it is a major bust. Patterico’s Pontifications Legalization in Amsterdam |
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Jul 19, 2009, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by excon Hello again, Mr. follow:
I dunno. You want somebody intelligent. I'm him. You say you want something to start. I say it's started. I guess you're pissed because it hasn't started where YOU are yet.
I'm just telling you, that there's been a SEA CHANGE in the conversation about pot in just the last year. MAJOR things are in the wind.
So you tell me you want it to happen, and I'm telling you it IS happening, and you don't like that news.
Here. Go smoke some of this. It's good Seattle kush. Maybe it'll mellow you out a little bit.
excon | Here in N.Y. it is juicy fruit,flav of the week  |
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Jul 19, 2009, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by follow please Im just pissed and ranting because of the digusting image it still has in society, and the anti-drug money that gets spent on it, when my school doesnt provide me with text books  | Hello again, f:
You see, when CHANGE happens, it really HAPPENS....
Pot DOESN'T have that image in California any more. People buy it in NICE SAFE stores. They can buy marijuana candy, butter, cookies, rubs and oils, all packaged beautifully. They even have delivery guys on bikes in Oakland...
Nope. When it becomes legal, it becomes a product like any other....
Here's the good news about Canada. WE'RE the instigator of the drug war. When WE end it, it'll end up in the great white north too, and it IS.... I've been waiting 40 years.
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Jul 19, 2009, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by artlady Here in N.Y. it is juicy fruit,flav of the week  | OMG, i just had Juicy Fruit last week...and omg that was amazing lol. It was very dense with a nice light green color, very tangy smell, almost citric. The taste was amazing |
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Jul 19, 2009, 06:18 PM
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| im confused....i know canibus is weed...
but i thought hemp was like, lotion, and twine and natrual clothing and stuff. isnt it?
i am of 2 minds on this. i do believe that adults should have the right to choose to destroy thier braincells with pot or not (i did it in highschool and a year into adult hood)
however, if we legalize it, it will be made available to kids. just like ciggarettes and alcohole are now. (trust me, they can, do and always WILL be able to get them, legal or not)
at least with pot illigal we can have SOME mesure of protection for our kids. |
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