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Old Sep 6, 2007, 06:44 AM
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So, what do you think the viability.

of a Clinton/Obama ticket is for the Democratic party?

I think it's interesting, that even 20 years ago the idea of a woman and a black man running on the same ticket and as front-runners was nearly out of the question. What do you think has changed in the last 20 years to allow this as a very real possibility?

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Old Sep 6, 2007, 06:46 AM   #2  
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I think Hillary would be better off having someone like Bill Richardson on the ticket. Obama and Hillary are both from Chi town .The ticket should be spit regionally .

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There's also the point that Obama is very far to the left of the position that Hillary is trying to straddle. Hillary's strength is that she is able to court the moderates, which is what could win her the general election. She would lose that ability with Obama as a running-mate, because he's too far to the left. She'd no longer be able to claim that she's a moderate if she's choosing a far-left running mate.

Tom's right, she'd be better off with Bill Richardson or someone like him as a running-mate.

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There's also the point that Obama is very far to the left of the position that Hillary is trying to straddle. Hillary's strength is that she is able to court the moderates, which is what could win her the general election. She would lose that ability with Obama as a running-mate, because he's too far to the left. She'd no longer be able to claim that she's a moderate if she's choosing a far-left running mate.

Tom's right, she'd be better off with Bill Richardson or someone like him as a running-mate.

I would actually agree with you here. They are hurting themselves trying to show how different they are from each other. However, I would disagree with Tom about the region issue of the two candidates. I believe that Obama, if he can motivate the black voters, will certainly have a strong showing in the South.
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Hello John:

I'm not thrilled with her, but I think Hillary is gonna be the next president. Especially with bathroomgate hanging around. Hee, hee. Yes, I'm gleeful when hypocrites get their comeuppance.

But, back to Hillary. She's basically a moderate Republican. I dunno if it'll hurt her to have Obama on the ticket. He brings a lot of votes - perhaps MORE than the conservative ones she'd lose if she chose him. I think it would.

What could bring us to a time when this could happen? I think it's a little late, frankly. The civil rights act and the women’s movement happened damn near 50 years ago. It's about time we see the effect.

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Possibly true. However, in the 20th Century, it was rare for a ticket without a North/South dual representation to win the Presidency. It might happen, but its very rare.

A better argument is that Clinton has the Arkansas connection too, so she has a Southern connection there along with the NY northerner connection. In that sense, she may break the rules of Presidential-ticket-geography. That's where I think Tom may be wrong.

Either way, I don't see a Clinton/Obama ticket in the future.

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I'm all for a Clinton-Obama ticket. There are all sorts of pluses, not the least is the white woman-black man combo--both strong, smart, and able to balance what the other lacks. Clinton's husband is articulate and charismatic, as is Obama's wife. Both of those spouses would be wonderful additions to the WH, especially in contrast to the Stepford wife who's there now. It would be fun to watch Obama's two cute little girls grow up in the WH and perhaps see more of Chelsea as she fine-tunes a career and marriage.

Clinton and Obama have worked well together in the past. I believe they could work well together in the future.

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I'm all for a Clinton-Obama ticket. There are all sorts of pluses, not the least is the white woman-black man combo--both strong, smart, and able to balance what the other lacks. Clinton's husband is articulate and charismatic, as is Obama's wife. Both of those spouses would be wonderful additions to the WH, especially in contrast to the Stepford wife who's there now. It would be fun to watch Obama's two cute little girls grow up in the WH and perhaps see more of Chelsea as she fine-tunes a career and marriage.

Clinton and Obama have worked well together in the past. I believe they could work well together in the future.

Bill may indeed be a rather important factor when it comes to attracting voters. Despite the personal issues with his presidency, he was an immensely popular president.

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tomder55 agrees: He sucks the oxygen out of the room. It doesn't help Hillary when he is at the same event .but she has become adept making him the foil of her jokes.
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Either way, I don't see a Clinton/Obama ticket in the future.

Elliot

Why is that, specifically?

I must say, at one point during the last election, I thought Dean had a real chance. Oh, how wrong I was!
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Just as a side note......... Norman Hsu is on the lam again. The Clintoons really know how to pick em .

I mentioned Richardson for many more reasons than the regional argument which in itself has alot of merit. He is also Hispanic and both parties are competing to recruit them into their constituency. Also from my own perspective Richardson is by far the most qualified Democrat in the field. No one comes even close[ expect perhaps Joe Biden and I think I made it clear what I think of Senators].

Richardson is a former Congressman ;a former diplomat ,including the United States Ambassador to the United Nations ,a former head of the Dept of Energy and a Governor.

Despite the current rhetoric he uses now to appeal to the Moveon Democrats his record is one of a moderate . I do not agree with many of his positions but I'd sleep better at night if he was President over Evita .

Hillary will get the nomination however and she will select a VP from a swing State . My money is on Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland or former Va. Governor Mark Warner . Also Evan Bayh of Indiana has an outside chance as well as Conn. Senator Chris Dodd.

If Obama somehow wins the nomination I would expect he would try to bring John Edwards onto the ticket.
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