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of a Clinton/Obama ticket is for the Democratic party?
I think it's interesting, that even 20 years ago the idea of a woman and a black man running on the same ticket and as front-runners was nearly out of the question. What do you think has changed in the last 20 years to allow this as a very real possibility?
Because Hillary and Obama are oil and water, politically speaking. Hillary is trying to pose as a moderate, and Obama is a left-winger. Their positions are incompatible. Hillary can't triangulate to the center if she has a left-leaning running-mate, and Obama can't lean left if he is seen as "selling out" to the Clintonoid moderates.
Furthermore, both of them have big egos, and both of them want to be the center of attention. Obama won't play second fiddle to Hillary, and Hillary won't tolerate a running-mate who might take some of her limelight.
Because Hillary and Obama are oil and water, politically speaking. Hillary is trying to pose as a moderate, and Obama is a left-winger. Their positions are incompatible. Hillary can't triangulate to the center if she has a left-leaning running-mate, and Obama can't lean left if he is seen as "selling out" to the Clintonoid moderates.
Furthermore, both of them have big egos, and both of them want to be the center of attention. Obama won't play second fiddle to Hillary, and Hillary won't tolerate a running-mate who might take some of her limelight.
Elliot
Yes, but I think, as we've seen in the past, whenever running-mates are finally chosen both candidates tend to modify their previous positions. So, I'm not so sure it cannot happen. I also feel that, as a whole, both moderate and left-wing democrats generally like Obama. I believe that I read somewhere that Fidel Castro, for whatever his opinion is worth, thought their ticket would be unstoppable.
I don't see a Clinton-Obama ticket. My antenae have picked up on what's blowing in the wind the last couple of days.
I'm thinking that since Obama is getting enough financial support and has a new team of foreign policy experts on board combined with his charisma.....I'm seeing an Obama for President and an experienced white man running for Vice President...Joe Biden, ???. Obama for President is going to gain huge momentum in the coming year despite the Republican Noise and Slime Machine attacks.
Republicans continue to be soiled by Bush and the antics of other Republicans. The mood is that people are sick of hypocritical politicians. Another plus for a charismatic visionary.
Hillary will put up a valliant fight for the nomination. She has a good chance, too. It would be Hillary and a moderate white man if she gets the nomination.
Clinton has the machine, drive, and her husband's expertise as to how to get and maintain power. She is a realist and adaptable.
Obama, has the name recognition, has proven he can raise money, and has charisma that Clinton lacks. His lack of experience is a minus, but others may see that as a plus because he is not perceived as a Washington insider.
Wondergirl, not only do I know about Hillary, I have actually spoken to people who worked for her and her husband. Put simply, she's got a Napolean complex. She cusses like a sailor. She berates anyone lower than her, especially her secret service staff (who may one day have to make the choice of whether to take a bullet for her). She is not a nice person, and she has an ego the size of Texas. She's also a phoney... just check out her put-on southern accent. She and Barack Obama are oil and water. They will never be able to work together for more than five minutes without their egos getting in the way of each other. Ain't gonna happen.
I think that a Rudy/Huckabee ticket might be interesting, going up against Hillary. Rudy would take NY away from Hillary, and Huckabee would possibly (probably) take Arkansas away from her. From a purely geographic perspective, it would be interesting to see. And I've been impressed with what Huckabee has to say on the issues.
I think that a Rudy/Huckabee ticket might be interesting, going up against Hillary. Rudy would take NY away from Hillary, and Huckabee would possibly (probably) take Arkansas away from her. From a purely geographic perspective, it would be interesting to see. And I've been impressed with what Huckabee has to say on the issues.
Elliot
I think you may be right, with regard to Rudy probably carrying NY, but I think that's where it would stop. I honestly don't believe he has much of a following outside his constituency. He does have name recognition, I'll give you that, but I don't believe he can pose a real threat to the Democrats, if it comes down to that.
In all honesty though, I must admit that my knowledge of many of the Republican candidates is rather weak, since I wouldn't vote for one in a million years. However, that is only due to wedge issues.
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agrees: Elliot-I'm on my out the door for work. Just wanted to mention that I saw in the news yesterday that Fred Thompson made his bid for the White House official.
While interesting, I don't think he will have any real influence during the course of the elections.
All I know is that the Clinton culture is beginning to become manifest again and she has not even secured the nomination yet.
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The Democrat candidates would love to take her on but they are afraid of the 1000 lb. gorilla in the room . They know in the unlikely event that they win the nomination that they will need the Clinton machine to win the general election . So they dare not take swipes at her. Instead both Obama and Edwards have sent their wives out to do the dirty work.
We have already posted on the illegal fundraising being done for Hillary and it's possible link to foreign money. Norman Hsu tried to become a fugitive but he became ill in flight on the California Zephyr and was taken to a hospital in Colorado . He skipped town even though that meant forfeiture of a $2million bond that someone posted on his behalf.
Kathleen Willey, the woman who says Bill Clinton groped her in the Oval Office, claims she her house was burglarized over the weekend .Her purse was stolen as well as a manuscript for her upcoming book “Target: Caught in the Crosshairs of Bill and Hillary Clinton”, which promises revelations that could damage Evita's campaign.