Should I bother to debate my personal opinion on Fascism?

Fr_Chuck · Apr 30, 2011, 06:39 PM

Depends on the occassion and your friends, if they are open and will sit down and talk and discuss.

But I assume since you have to ask, and the say you ask, no one is slammed with facts, and accept any of them, one can discuss points, one at a time over a period of time.

tomder55 · May 6, 2011, 06:33 AM

I'd like to hear what you think .

You are not alone.

State Socialism(fascism),with it's government intervention and central planning of the economy is more popular than most people are willing to admit.

However,fascism, the political system has a quid pro quo that individual interests are necessarily subservient to state interests.

My question is why would that aspect be attractive ?

excon · May 27, 2011, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tomder55

individual interests are necessarily subservient to state interests. My question is why would that aspect be attractive ?

Hello tom:

Well, the state can spy on the people if they feel threatened. That makes for a safer country. They could take the guns away. That too, would make for a safer country.. They could declare anybody they didn't like to be an enemy of the state, and whisk them away without a trial or anything. If they think the people have information that might help them, they could torture them.

Now, that WOULDN'T be attractive to ME, but it is to some folks.

excon

WVFrustrated · Sep 22, 2011, 08:10 AM

Politics is always touchy subject, and Fascism doesn't lend itself to an open and honest discussion. But attempting to get friends to underxtand your views is good way to find out who your friends are.

Of course, trying to defend a totalitarian system in a country that is supposed to be the anathema of that can be quite challenging.

Colt_Prattes · Sep 27, 2011, 06:47 AM

Well I also feel socialism is the best for the multi-ethnic societies like India and the remaining subcontinent. However, i have seen people mixing fascism and socialism. These are two different ideologies.

SeattlePioneer · Jan 23, 2012, 12:35 AM

Read the book "Liberal Fascism" by Johnag Goldberg. You will find that you and your Progressive friends have a lot more in common than you might suspect:

In the book, Goldberg argues that fascist movements were and are left-wing. He states that both modern liberalism and fascism descended from progressivism, and that prior to World War II, "fascism was widely viewed as a progressive social movement with many liberal and left-wing adherents in Europe and the United States".[2]

Goldberg writes that there was more to fascism than bigotry and genocide, and argues that bigotry and genocide were not so much a feature of Italian fascism, but rather of German Nazism, which was forced upon the Italian fascists "after the Nazis had invaded northern Italy and created a puppet government in SalÃ²."[3]

This is from the Wikipedia article on the book.

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