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Lt. Gen Douglas Lute, President Bush's new military adviser, said yesterday that because of frequent tours of duty for US soldiers in Iraq and Afghan, it is worth considering a return to the military draft.
I saw some stats within the week that stated that a majority of soldiers in Iraq have been there *since the beginning* of the war and occupation.
How do you feel a military draft would play with American citizens? How would it effect the election of 11-08 other than completely destroying the Republican Party? Would the White House, with Bush in it, be burned to the ground by disgusted citizens?
I don't think Bush would sign on for a return to the military draft which was discontinued in 1973.
I think the Republicans are hoping a Democrat takes over the White House in 1-2009 so Republicans can blame the Democrats for losing the Iraq War which Bush lost by mismanagement, thereby saving the Republican Party.
Of course the draft has always been an option to consider. I think he stated the obvious to an NPR "All Things Considered" question which is now being spun to sound like this is a change in policy.
I do not believe it is being "seriously " considered at this time. The Army met and exceeded it's July recruiting goals and their position has been for some time that they do not wish to go back to the days of the draft.
Here is the quote you ignored .
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"Today, the current means of the all-volunteer force is serving us exceptionally well,"..."It would be a major policy shift, not actually a military but a political policy shift, to move to some other course."
Now I looked around the left bog sites and I see head-lines like 'War Czar Touts Draft'.But you and I both know that is a mischaracterization of his comments.
Yes, it is more of a smear campaign of Bush and those that report to him.
The idea of the draft has been considered many times, and Bush has always stated to be against it.
Perrsonally I would like to see a couple years of mandatory government service for those getting out of high school.
Lt. Gen Douglas Lute, President Bush's new military adviser, said yesterday that because of frequent tours of duty for US soldiers in Iraq and Afghan, it is worth considering a return to the military draft.
I saw some stats within the week that stated that a majority of soldiers in Iraq have been there *since the beginning* of the war and occupation.
How do you feel a military draft would play with American citizens? How would it effect the election of 11-08 other than completely destroying the Republican Party? Would the White House, with Bush in it, be burned to the ground by disgusted citizens?
I don't think Bush would sign on for a return to the military draft which was discontinued in 1973.
I think the Republicans are hoping a Democrat takes over the White House in 1-2009 so Republicans can blame the Democrats for losing the Iraq War which Bush lost by mismanagement, thereby saving the Republican Party.
What do you think??
It's a Non sequitur ....The whole thing is back-door unoffical grunts
Yes, of course, I learned it from you and the RIGHT WING NOISE MACHINE PROPAGANSISTS represented here by ....Tomder55, speachlessTex, kinji and Chuck.
But, you guys have to know that ENDLESS WAR requires ENDLESS SOLDIERS unless you are going to have the same old soldiers serve for five, ten, twenty years!!!
Yes, of course, I learned it from you and the RIGHT WING NOISE MACHINE PROPAGANSISTS represented here by ....Tomder55, speachlessTex, kinji and Chuck.
But, you guys have to know that ENDLESS WAR requires ENDLESS SOLDIERS unless you are going to have the same old soldiers serve for five, ten, twenty years!!!
THAT WAS THE POINT.
War is endless…surly you have realized before now sweet cheeks…and why are you lumping me into any category.
The interesting thing is that the British are leaving Iraq with the grand loss of 168 dead in almost 4 years of fighting…that confounds the whole concept of war…wonder what those boys were doing that was so safe.
THE SAME AMERICAN SOLDIERS HAVE BEEN FIGHTING **FOR THE MOST PART** SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE OCCUPATION!!!!! YEARS!! THE SAME MEN AND WOMEN.
You want endless war, you need an endless supply of soldiers to go to combat zones unless you think that these *exhausted soldiers* have to go on and on for five more years, ten years.
We lost the Iraq war at the beginning in part because Bush wouldn't sent the 450,000 men that the generals wanted.
Where to get soldiers for the ENDLESS WAR, sweetheart?
THE SAME AMERICAN SOLDIERS HAVE BEEN FIGHTING **FOR THE MOST PART** SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE OCCUPATION!!!!! YEARS!! THE SAME MEN AND WOMEN.
You want endless war, you need an endless supply of soldiers to go to combat zones unless you think that these *exhausted soldiers* have to go on and on for five more years, ten years.
We lost the Iraq war at the beginning in part because Bush wouldn't sent the 450,000 men that the generals wanted.
Where to get soldiers for the ENDLESS WAR, sweetheart?
As I understand it the Army has been making its quota, and it’s about time some of those slackers earned their pay. Besides, skin-heads are lining up for the training as the primary motive. Have you seen some of the bonuses that are being paid for reenlistment?
Lt. Gen Douglas Lute, President Bush's new military adviser, said yesterday that because of frequent tours of duty for US soldiers in Iraq and Afghan, it is worth considering a return to the military draft.
I saw some stats within the week that stated that a majority of soldiers in Iraq have been there *since the beginning* of the war and occupation.
What do you think??
Hi Choux-
My parents are up in age and they both have expressed disappointment in seeing my brother having to head back to Iraq three times under Jr. BTW my brother served in the previous Gulf War with one tour for Bush Sr.. In all he's tasted war four times counting his current trip. We want more than anything for my brother to be back home in the arms of his loving wife and his two darling young daughters. He has approximately three and half years until full retirement. I've thought from the start of Dubya's war campaign that we should had went in with more man power. I think, never mind that, I know he has mismanaged this war concerning some of the soldier rotations. Bush's recent decision for extensions was not a military personnel favorite either. On balance, I've heard it said that politics force presidents to operate in certain ways sometimes not to their own likings. So I'm not sure how much of this is to Bush's liking, but he's in the fray.
Draft? Personally I think we should have a mandatory military service of two years in our country. Not necessarily because of this war, but so that it would instill some discipline and character into our youth. As far as strictly speaking on politics and political parties...as you know I did not vote for Bush either election. Certainly the Republican party had others that I believe would had made better presidents. But it is what it is, to my displeasure.
I know you and a few others poke at each other, but I think this is a good post. I try and stay out of the tongue-in-cheek circus bantering that often happens here. There is some extremism on both sides and that scares me. Anyway, I do actually agree with you at times. I'm glad you post here.
Personally, I think the concept of compulsary service to one's country is a good thing.
Many countries around the world require at least short terms in their service. It doesn't have to be long term... many have stints as short as two years.
And there's even talk here about as little as fifteen months. And that doesn't mean you will be the target for those fifteen months. There are many opportunities to learn transferable skills- skills that are on the demand in an safe and open society. OJT that's better than a cozy apprentiship...
Think about it... Do you have the real right to judge what goes on until you've been there? NO! What if you actually learned something? About yourself? About your fellow man? About some type of skill?
Is it easier to sit back with your Starbucks and say, "War is wrong. We shouldn't be here doing this." (Many times being unsure way we really are there...)
Hell, ya, it's easier. But you sit there, knowing that people who care about their families and friends, their grandparents and their children, and their future care about being able to say whatever they want and so you'll be able to say whatever you want, still has to be protected. Protected from the kinds of people who would rather you say anything of value whould be spoken in their langauage, and if it isn't , you'll be summarily executed.
Many young soldiers, in all branches of our military, have seen war. Tasted war. Maybe even found out he was good at it. Could hold his own in combat. He may have chosen to remain, not to kill more. But to see that others are safe until they can defend themselves and defend the peace we cherish today. I'd love to go back, but I'm too old, they say. They tell me I'm better suited to stay in the rear and help others understand why. Why we want to keep the things our national history teaches us about. The misery, the sacrafice, the lonely distances between us and our loved ones. I guess it comes down to having a place, a safe , secure place, where we can assemble as American's and tell the oppressors around the world, "We're not happy. We don't feel safe. Stop what you're doing and let our battle-weary soldiers come home in peace."
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