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Does the endorsement of Mitt Romney by National Review (long time publication founded by William Buckley ) mean anything to you ? Will it have any influence on who you support ?
But Mr. Obama said that religion has a rightful role to play in American politics, and he praised people of faith who he said are now using their influence to try to unite Americans against problems like poverty, AIDS, the health care crisis and the violence in Darfur.
"My faith teaches me that I can sit in church and pray all I want, but I won't be fulfilling God's will unless I go out and do the Lord's work," he said, speaking before more than 9,000 people at the Hartford Civic Center in front of a red and black backdrop with the church's marketing slogan: "God is still speaking."
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"I am very grateful that I had a grounding in faith that gave me the courage and the strength to do what I thought was right, regardless of what the world thought,"
If Tootsie Pops were an important issue, like religion has become in recent campaigns, the candidates and their campaign people would be handing them out on street corners.
Yes, and the Republican Party whose mouthpiece they are. The conservative principles that matter most to me--Limited but Accountable Government Institutions and Services, Fiscal Responsibility, Individual Liberties Protected From Infringement by the State--have all been systematically trashed by the Republican Party whenever it has been in power ever since 1980. As soon as they came to power, they promptly abandoned the principles of good governance they used to stand for. That's why I don't take them seriously anymore.
Yes, and the Republican Party whose mouthpiece they are. The conservative principles that matter most to me--Limited but Accountable Government Institutions and Services, Fiscal Responsibility, Individual Liberties Protected From Infringement by the State--have all been systematically trashed by the Republican Party whenever it has been in power ever since 1980. As soon as they came to power, they promptly abandoned the principles of good governance they used to stand for. That's why I don't take them seriously anymore.
You said it all right there OG. I don't give a damn what they say they stand for since only time will tell what they really stand for...usually when it is too late we find out. Rudy can run New York. Hillary can run her mouth. What a difficult choice.
I think what we're seeing right now is a serious rift in the coalition opening wide for all to see. People I would describe as Bible Christians are embracing Huckabee, who doesn't have the flip-flop history of Romney or the personal baggage of Rudy. The conservative media is uncomfortable with Huckabee because of his heterodox positions on everything but life and family issues, and conservative Catholics are uncomfortable with a new-Earth biblical fundamentalist being the nominee of our party. I fall into the latter group, and am very wary of a candidate who claims a Christian mandate for governance. That strikes me as just as dangerously messianic as the rhetoric Oprah speaks about Obama being "the Truth."
I hate primary politics for exactly this reason: it exposes the discontinuities and conflicts between normally cordial members of the conservative coalition and magnifies them to the point of caricature. Hopefully we come out of this with a candidate that can expand the coalition, not divide it.
EDIT: I didn't mean to categorize Huck's positions as inconsistent. I don't know enough about them to say that. I can say they are heterodox to the conservative media's line on tax policy, national defense and foreign policy &c.
It's two centuries since the passage of the First Amendment, and our presidential candidates still cannot distinguish establishment from free exercise.
"Does the endorsement of Mitt Romney by National Review (long time publication founded by William Buckley ) mean anything to you ? Will it have any influence on who you support ?"
"Does the endorsement of Mitt Romney by National Review (long time publication founded by William Buckley ) mean anything to you ? Will it have any influence on who you support ?"
I must say that I've always liked Joe Lieberman. I've found it difficult in the past to put my own support behind McCain, but considering this particular election and the other candidates in the running, I like him as well as any.
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You mean Republican Lieberman????
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Yes, well almost. He reminds more of the Democratic views I once knew decades ago, more centrist than liberal. But I never vote on party affiliations anymore and I think more and more Americans are less straight party tickets voters as well.
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