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Old Aug 8, 2007, 06:55 AM
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A recent poll

A recent Gallup poll showed the following:

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If the United States is viewed as having lost the war in Iraq, how much would that bother you -- a great deal, a moderate amount, not much, or not at all?

-----------------Great deal---------Moderate amount------ Not much------- Not at all -------No opinion
2007 May 4-6 ----33% -----------------22 ----------------------19 ---------------24 --------------2

So, 43% of those polled would not be bothered much or at all if the USA is seen as having lost the war in Iraq. Nearly half the country doesn't give a crap if we lose or not.

Does that bother you? Is that how you feel?

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Old Aug 8, 2007, 07:00 AM   #2  
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A recent Gallup poll showed the following:



So, 43% of those polled would not be bothered much or at all if the USA is seen as having lost the war in Iraq. Nearly half the country doesn't give a crap if we lose or not.

Does that bother you? Is that how you feel?

Elliot
I wonder how that statistic measures against those who don’t vote.

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ETWolverine agrees: The poll did not indicate whether these were "registered voters" or "all respondents" being polled. So I can't really answer your question.
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Old Aug 8, 2007, 07:07 AM   #3  
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I have to say it bothers me...

I have lost a lot of friends over there and I know winning or losing will never bring them back but at least our efforts won't be in vain. My own platoon sergeant was killed.
The media doesn't paint a proper picture of what is really going on over there. You see what they want you to see. These people in Washington that go over there for a few days and come back with some big report of what they saw make me laugh.
Yes I want the war over so I don't have to send my husband back or watch any of my friends go. At this point with all the time, effort and money we have spent we need to finish what we started.

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ETWolverine agrees: Thank you for your service, JRB. G-d bless. And great answer.
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Old Aug 8, 2007, 07:59 AM   #4  
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Who was polled? Gender? Age? Income level? Education level? Registered voters? Unregistered voters? Where do they live? How many were polled? What was the SPECIFC question asked and the SPECIFIC options to choose? Were follow-up questions asked? What constitutes a "loss"?

I hate statistics.

I'm not trying to debunk this poll (as Gallup is usually reputable) but so many things influence the results.

Assuming the poll and results are true and unbiased I think it is sad. I think people are probably letting their feelings about going to war in the first place, about bringing the troops home, about Bush, etc influence their decision. You can disagree with the war and still hope to "win".

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ETWolverine agrees: Jill, I wish I could answer your questions about who was polled, but that information simply isn't available to me. Gallup's site didn't give that info. I don't know the size or makeup of the statistical set we are talking about.
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A recent Gallup poll showed the following:



So, 43% of those polled would not be bothered much or at all if the USA is seen as having lost the war in Iraq. Nearly half the country doesn't give a crap if we lose or not.

Does that bother you? Is that how you feel?

Elliot
Is the opinion that ‘taxes should be lower’ incompatible with the opinion that ‘there should be more government programs?’

These things are always dependent on how the question is framed. For instance, if you ask people whether they favor spending more on welfare, most say no; if you ask whether they favor spending more on assistance to the poor, most say yes.

And so it is, there is really nothing that I can concluded from what you have given us.
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With all of the money, lives, and effort we have put into this thing...we BETTER come out on the better end of the deal. It would bother me a lot if we didn't "win." How can people just not care?

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Old Aug 8, 2007, 08:58 AM   #7  
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Whenever I hear this kind of result from a poll, the first thing that comes to mind is that many Americans have become so complacent with the absolute luxury we enjoy compared with much of the world that they have lost the ability to comprehend what actual war is all about, or even that there is any real thought beyond the confines of their college campuses.

I hate to think that there are this many Americans that view winning or losing a war more as an academic or mental exercise or image on a television that they've lost the ability to comprehend war for what it really is. For these people, Saddam Hussein is no different than Michael Corleone. He isn't "real" to them. None of this is "real" to them.

In WWI and WWII, the men and women at home changed their entire lives for the war effort. Today, we are not asked to change anything. We continue to watch the same programs, go to the same schools and offices, sporting events, etc. and don't have to remind ourselves that there is an actual conflict where our men and women are fighting (as I type this, there's a major offensive underway). Some are comfortable in mocking our commander in chief, which provides comfort and aid to the enemy whether they want to acknowledge it or not, are taught in school that "it is the highest form of patriotism." Such rhetoric has polluted the minds of many in this country.

The only logical explanations I can think of as to why someone would think it no big deal to lose a war, setting aside "stupidity" as an obvious answer, are (1) complacency, (2) relative wealth of the nation, and (3) academic indoctrination.

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rankrank55 agrees: SO TRUE! It's just not a reality to most people!
ETWolverine agrees: Great point. Perhaps if we had gotten more Americans involved, it would be more real to them. People who are involved in a cause tend to support that cause to a greater degree than those who are not directly involved.
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To be quite honest with you, it pi$$es me off!! My husband is in his fourth year serving in the United States Navy and has been on one six month deployment over there. It makes me feel like if no one cares, then why does he even do it? He was over there fighting for those people that "dont care", so in my opinion they need to show a little respect and start caring!

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To be quite honest with you, it pi$$es me off!! My husband is in his fourth year serving in the United States Navy and has been on one six month deployment over there. It makes me feel like if no one cares, then why does he even do it? He was over there fighting for those people that "dont care", so in my opinion they need to show a little respect and start caring!
I think you could take some encouragement from the fact that had the question been…”Do you care if we win or lose the war in Iraq.” I suppose win would have been nearly 100%

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To be quite honest with you, it pi$$es me off!! My husband is in his fourth year serving in the United States Navy and has been on one six month deployment over there. It makes me feel like if no one cares, then why does he even do it? He was over there fighting for those people that "dont care", so in my opinion they need to show a little respect and start caring!

Exactly!!!!! God Bless your hubby and all the others who are over there.

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