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Old Feb 5, 2009, 08:35 AM
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Rebuilding The Republican Party

The Republican party lost so badly because they have betrayed their traditional small-government conservatism. They need to return to the Eisenhower era Republicans who were fiscally responsible, socially moderate and multilateral on foreign policy. The party is now controlled by big-government spenders, foreign policy hawks and the religious right factions of the party and they won't win elections until they return to their roots.

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Old Feb 5, 2009, 08:45 AM   #2  
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You have made an interesting observation. There can be no return to the Eisenhower era because of Johnson and the Great Society, unless you have a plan to repeal the Great Society. The legacy of George W. Bush is that the Republican Party became an enabler of big-government spenders, unlike the majority of the Party, and Reagan.
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Old Feb 11, 2009, 03:03 PM   #3  
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I agree with what you say about fiscal responsiblity .That was the dagger that drove the party from power . However ,I have to say that there is a shameful past regarding foreign policy that was alternately isolationist and accomodating to thugs around the world in the quest for "stability " . I think the goal of promoting liberty is much more honorable.
Also I think so called moderate social policies plays into the hands of extremists from the left who has pretty much won the culture wars over the post-Ike years . I would have to push back very far ;much further than so called moderation just to return to some balance ;the country has drifted so far towards socialist progressive secularists goals . I refuse to compromise on these issues even if I am a permanent minority as a result.
Republicans should strive to continue to place conservative Justices into the courts because there is where the permanent losses have been manifest.
I do not believe in bipartisanship when morals are compromised.

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Old Feb 15, 2009, 09:21 PM   #4  
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I think what the 2008 elections and the prop 8 vote in California demonstrate is,

that the issues the majority of voters had was primarily with the economy and the way both parties spend and spend and spend.

I think it is sad that in the age of internet and mass media that you have undecided, uninformed voters a weeks and days prior to election, or people that vote for someone based on age or race or whether they speak good or what the rest of the world thinks.


On socially conservative issues, prop 8 and the enthusiasm that Palin generated among the GOP base indicates that it would be a mistake for the GOP to be moderate or independent.


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On socially conservative issues, prop 8 and the enthusiasm that Palin generated among the GOP base indicates that it would be a mistake for the GOP to be moderate or independent.
Hello in:

The left desperately hopes you're right.

If you're banking on Sarah Palin to be your savior, be prepared for a permanent Democratic majority.

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Hey koolaid sipper, why are you still harping on a woman that has done nothing to you. She is the governor of the largest state in the union, has a hugh budget, has worked with both sides of the isle to make her state far better than it was, has reduced taxes, gotten concessions from the oil industry, has worked at many many jobs outside of politics to raise her family. Choose to bring into the world a child that she knew could have problems. WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?
Oh I forgot, you prefer a man that has never in his life worked outside of politics. Is a product of the Chicago political machine that brought us the likes of Blago, and that now defunct junior senator. Has questionable ties in his past, is unable to complete a sentence without inserting five or ten uhs and ahs. Has never been responsible for anything in his life. voted present more times than not on legislation, and that people in his own party feel has lots of eye appeal, but is easily manipulated. That is why pelosi and reid pushed the largest pork bill in the history of the USA through congress with no provisions for reading or even trying to understand its content. He effectively raised the national debt by what? 35% his first month on office. Cant wait to see what he brings next when this trillion dollars fails to fix the economy.
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Hey koolaid sipper, why are you still harping on a woman that has done nothing to you.
Hello 450:

She's the gift that keeps on giving. But, I don't harp. I think she's a lovely woman. I'd LOVE to have her as my kids den mother. But, as the leader of my country, you've got to be kidding...

I'd give you the standard "she doesn't know anything" response, but I already know you think she does.

That's what makes this fun. You're really NOT kidding.

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Yet, you vote for president a person that has NO background except to look pretty. Zero business experience. Zero real political experience. Zero foreign trade experience. Zero foreign relations experience. Zero zest for the job. He cannot even lead in this pork package boondoggle. He turned the most important piece of legislation over to mz face lift and that goof ball from Nevada to write so he did not get his hands dirty when it fails. Is that leadership? I think not! I suspect that you are you just another of those that watches oprah and then cries at how wonderful she is?

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Hello 450:

What you say is true. Obama has less experience than Palin.

But, he's smart, and she's not. He's educated, and she's not. He knows about the world. She doesn't.

I dunno if that makes a difference to you, but it does to me.

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Hi Koolaid sipper,
You think he is smart? Heck, my IQ is higher than his. So what? Makes no difference in the real world. He got where he is by joining the right groups, smoozing with the right people, going to the right schools, kissing the right rear ends in the Chicago political scene. Nothing more. I would much prefer having as a leader someone with some smarts and real understanding of the world, right and wrong than someone with an IQ of 150 and not enough street smarts to toe his own shoes. But that is me and not some seattle lib like you.

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