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here's the thing...im a sergeant in the army, and i've been hearing about this rosie o'donell thing, and i ask this: are people in america behind the average soldier, (the normal doesn't torture people, etc) or are they against the soldier because they are against the war (the vietnam mentality)? the reason i ask is because rosie said all this stuff, calling us terrorists and all, there has been a lot of conversation regarding whether or not people feel that way. two of my battle buddies were spit on in the dallas airport when they went on leave from the deployment, simply for being in uniform and that guy apparently not agreeing with the war.....i am eager to hear your thoughts.
skell I did not answer your thread to begin with... I answered wiggitywackiraq.. jesus it wasn't directed at you. I'll say it again,thank you American Soldiers
Most people don't choose where they go, once they are in the military they are "sent" to war... just because someone is a soldier, doesn't mean they agree with the war. And even if they agreed with the war, the only person that can be blamed or deserves to be "spit on" is the one who started the war. And even that is up for personal interpretation. Some may feel it was the presidents fault. Some may feel it was the various terrorist organizations in Iraq. Either way, the troops cannot be blamed and only deserve our respect and support.
And because I have a feeling Rayne may say something to this extent: Those who have joined during the war may feel obligated or as if it is their duty to fight and do something honorable. To be courageous and face death, pain and suffering. That is something you, Rayne, are too cowardly to face and so you use your naive thoughts and beliefs to hide behind. So that said, you need to stop hating on these people because they are doing something which you, nor I, even can imagine the courage it takes.
skell I did not answer your thread to begin with... I answered wiggitywackiraq.. jesus it wasn't directed at you. I'll say it again,thank you American Soldiers
You disagreed with my post. And what you said when you disagreed was directed at me. Do you even understand what you are saying here. Please go and read your contributions again. This includes your ratings of people answers.
=Greg Quinn]They are dying for oil and that's it. LOOK FOR THE ADGENDAS PEOPLE!!!
So in my quest to be as objective as possible while still hanging on to my values, I want to know more about our oil agenda. It definitely would make sense (from a capitalist standpoint), and I will admit that it may be possible that our entire purpose for going into Iraq is for control of oil (though maybe I don't want to admit that we are that corrupt of a country). This doesn't seem like something that we have any evidence for, at least that I have heard or read.
I have heard many people use this argument, and they may be right and they may be wrong. Is this documented or just opinion? I am asking sincerely.
Logically, it would seem that if this was a documented fact and not just an opinion held by some, that there would be a huge investigation led by the Dems into this. So far, I have only heard arguments about grounds for impeachment based on the lack of evidence for WMDs. This leads me to believe that it is not substantiated nor will it be (this doesn't mean that it isn't true). If it is true, why am I spending almost as much money on gasoline each month as I do on food (does this seem wrong to anyone else but me)?
I feel like spitting on someone when I drop $55 on a tank of gas. Who should I blame for this?
If we don't take control of the middle east and their oil, China and Russia will certainly get around to it. A zillion Chinese soldiers would have had it finished by now though. The same way they would finish us off if we happened to run out of oil. Thank the inept jerks, Democrats and Republicans for not giving our troops the support and the means to make short work of it. Since WWII, we seem to have forgotten how. I want to end it by winning so our troops can come home.
Rosie O'Donnal is a fat, stupid pig. I can't listen to her since I can't look at her.
As far as that little puke that spit on your buddies, he needs his a*# whooped!
This is to my friend Auttajasi : Quote... It definitely would make sense (from a capitalist standpoint), and I will admit that it may be possible that our entire purpose for going into Iraq is for control of oil (though maybe I don't want to admit that we are that corrupt of a country). This doesn't seem like something that we have any evidence for, at least that I have heard or read.
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I'm not being rude but I have a ton of info that would blow your mind and I will pm you soon... But easy info is just type in war and oil on Google and read topics that come up. I was reading the paper 3yrs ago and saw a little something about Iran, I said "Oh no that's where they are heading next!" And now look. I have a friend named Corie, awesome guy, he has kinda lost himself doing research on this and other subjects. There is a rabbit hole, and I promise that it is so much darker and deeper than you could ever imagine. Some people really hate the truth. And they choose to ignore things that are so easy to see, you just have to look. My military buds know and really don't care. I don't really respect that but at the end of their sights may be an innocent civi, and I know they wouldn't pull the trigger. I'm pretty sure you would do the same Auttajasi. Off topic...I have so many sites you should see, and I have a DVD underground collection from Corie that stands tall, I assure you that proof is thick as oil. But needs to be researched.
In Iraqi War Scenario, Oil Is Key Issue (washingtonpost.com)
That is just a few. Make sure you investigate with out prejudice and tell me if you find more than motive. I have so many sites in my mind but can't retrieve any off hand due to my dropping all of this about a year ago. It can be too much. I'll have a few for tomorrow.
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And because I have a feeling Rayne may say something to this extent: Those who have joined during the war may feel obligated or as if it is their duty to fight and do something honorable. To be courageous and face death, pain and suffering. That is something you, Rayne, are too cowardly to face and so you use your naive thoughts and beliefs to hide behind. So that said, you need to stop hating on these people because they are doing something which you, nor I, even can imagine the courage it takes.
Oops... I disagree with that last bit, that's what happens when you have a kid. Sorry I was distracted. Rayne is not a COWARD as far as I know and im pretty sure you as well, you have not seen this person in action what so ever! You can't just go and say something like that. In prison if you call someone a rat they better be a f***'n rat. Well, where I come from if you if you call someone a coward you better be damn sure they are one. People have opinions and sometimes they are wrong and deserve a verbal lick, but that had 0 wit in it. Why did you call Rayne a coward?
First of all thank you for serving our country. My husband recently returned from Iraq and my father a 37 year retired marine served in veitnam. all I can say is simply this FORGET ABOUT ROSIE ODONNELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!its nothing but a ratings ploy and she's off the show now for good. don't listen to the celebrity mentality cause no one beleives it. Rose is a stupid insincere woman who has nothing but her own agenda to work on. she wants her own show and thinks this is how to get it.
that said. every man woman and child here are for the soldiers. we are pro soldier. there's not one person who is not affected by having a family member or knows someone who is serving. even with my husband home, I still pray for everyone of you to come home safely.
as for the veitnam mentality, you gotta see that we are the children of those service people who weren't treated with respect and called baby burner as my father was at the time of his home coming. we don't like the war or any war. but we do support the soldiers over there fighting. you walk on walls and tell us it's going to be allright. you walk off planes on a 30/30 insertion and don't blink an eye. you dont just serve your country you are the back bone of the country. you are the reason that flag stands for freedom.
so let Rosie have her say and let all her hot air out. once she's done that, she'll disappear into thin air.
I'm proud to know people like you, my husband and my father does too.
be careful and be safe. come home soon. we love you.
Ha ha... sorry I was angry. There should be a "maybe" in there somewhere. But still, she has no idea what it is like. Neither do I really for that matter. But I have had friends in the war and friends who have contemplated joining the war. Most of them are sick with fear before they decide to do it. It's tough and I wish soldiers would just be respected for how courageous they are.
Deedee you call me a coward. I suppose you could say that, but i disagree. If i am a coward then why do i not fear speaking my mind weither you or anyone like what i say or not? Some ppl are too scared to speak their mind, im not. That makes your staement contradictory I'm not scared of anything except that maybe i wolnt go to heaven. I've taken care of myself for years and in doing so got my way out of tough spots.. Point is i never once said or ment to say that i don't have respect for soliders. I do, and i do wish them all well, but sorry they aid in something i do not support and thus i cannot comply with what they do. I'm in no way naive, i have had to grow up faster then a lot of kids do. My folks weren't there to teach me things i taught myself. I'm certainly not going to allow someone who knows nothing of me break me down. Sorry i have more strength then that. Your 18 right? Your prolly still in school, so i think you have some more learning to do. As do we all. Only some of us have to learn faster then others. You see things one way as many other ppl may too. Sometime's being open minded is a good thing.
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