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Old May 27, 2007, 03:18 AM
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pro or anti soldier?

here's the thing...im a sergeant in the army, and i've been hearing about this rosie o'donell thing, and i ask this: are people in america behind the average soldier, (the normal doesn't torture people, etc) or are they against the soldier because they are against the war (the vietnam mentality)? the reason i ask is because rosie said all this stuff, calling us terrorists and all, there has been a lot of conversation regarding whether or not people feel that way. two of my battle buddies were spit on in the dallas airport when they went on leave from the deployment, simply for being in uniform and that guy apparently not agreeing with the war.....i am eager to hear your thoughts.

 
     

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Old May 27, 2007, 03:42 AM   #2  
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People are against the war not the soldiers. The terrorist referred to by Rosie is America not the soldier. I hope that clears things up for you.

Your mind is made up and you'll most likely attack anyone with a dissenting view so I'm out of this.

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tomder55 agrees: nope ,she clearly suggested it was the troops.
 
 
     
 
 
Old May 27, 2007, 03:50 AM   #3  
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my mind isn't made up thats why there is a question....i want to know others views on the subject, not here that America (a country) is a terrorist...that makes no sense. have a thought and explain it...you gave me two sentences. define how you feel about this question. do you support the soldier? do you not? do you agree with rosie? do you not? to what degree? i thought a sight like this would provide me with answers from people with a little more insight, not a flaccid line about a loose fact...i now would like answers only from people who are deep thinkers, even smart a**es, but dont belittle my inquiry with a 3rd graders answer. have some insight and even cite something.

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tomder55 agrees: My cousin is an officer doing his 3rd tour in Iraq .He also served in Operation Desert Storm. I would not advise anyone to tell him US troops are terrorists to his face .
 
 
     
 
 
Old May 27, 2007, 04:02 AM   #4  
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Wigg - Let me assure you, with 100% certainty - That we, America, Americans, love, support and our so very proud of our soldiers.

All of you are our hearts. We want you home and we want you home safe.

Do not, I repeat do not, and please pass these on to your buddies who were spit on, DO NOT, let the ugly fool who did that, paint a view for you and all of our fine soldiers, as to how we at home feel.

Rosie I think loves our troops. I am not even sure how she worded her first comment which triggered all of this controversery and frankly I don't even care. She does not speak for all of America, but I do feel she loves each and everyone of you. I even think she puts on shows for all of you. I think her angst is with our President. Not sure.

But to answer your question....YES, we love you.....Yes we are proud of you...more than any of you will ever know. There are many threads on here showing love and support for our troops.

God bless, stay safe and you just keep in mind, we here at home, pray for you and your families and thank you and your families for the continual sacrifice that you are making every minute of the day.

God bless you and America now and always.

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Megg disagrees: You can't speak for all Americans. I don't support it.
wiggitywackiraq : dont worry about rayne....you rocks...thanks for the support, and i like your opinions...good answer.
 
 
     
 
 
Old May 27, 2007, 05:44 AM   #5  
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Rosie does not speak for me, she does not speak for many, but she is loud and a mouthpiece who is not afraid to say anything that pops into her head. Which is her right. My right is that I do not have to agree with her.

I think our (America's) history with how the armed forces were treated during the Vietnam War taught us (citizens) a valuable lesson in knowing the difference between supporting our troops while being in disagreement with the war. I would hope that people learned and that our armed forces are not treated with the shameful disrespect as the returning soldiers during the Vietnam War were treated. Sadly, there are people out there that still do not have the capacity to discern the soldier from the war.

That being said, I do feel the majority of Americans support our troops. We know theirs is a tremendous responsibility, facing circumstances on a daily basis that we see, while we sit safely at home. Easy to be an armchair general.

So please tell your buddies that they are held in daily prayer for their safe return home, for their families, and for the duties they are commanded to perform. God bless you and all in your unit.

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Allheart agrees: shy so beautifully said.
wiggitywackiraq : shy you are such a sweetheart
 
 
     
 
 
Old May 27, 2007, 06:12 AM   #6  
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Personally, i am agaisnt the war. If people want to join the war, then im against them as well. Sure, if i see that a 18 year old girl or boy was killed i stop and think how pointless that young death was. How sad it is. But i also think that its there own fault in a way. For putting thereselves into that situation. In war there is no way to know if you will come out alive. I don't mourn for anyone, i think that its sad though. If i was asked to serve i'd say no. Why? Because its not my problem. I'm not going to kill inocent ppl. I don't believe in war. War is pitiful. Just b/c some nut job thinks we are a strong nation (which in reality were not) and thinks going to war and getting into Israles business is ok doesn't mean it is. If ppl wouldnt stand up to the governemt who will? There is something wrong with this country. Why join a war that you know is wrong? Why fight for nothing. Whatever. That kid in the war doesn't have the chance to get married and change the world. If they want to send people over send older people who had more of a life. When it comes down to it, i think this whole war is completely retarded. In my opinion, if Bush continues to do this he could end up in trouble with crazy's. We know how scary those people can be. I don't like Bush because i think his whole ''I <3 Jesus'' thing is completely fake. But i don't think he's the man for presisdent. I blame him for putting thoughts of war into young teens. I disagree with the war, soldiers fighting in this pointless, godless, nameless, and never-ending war. I wish the best for any of you, but i don't have to say i ''told you so''. I like Rosie she's got some things right. At the same time not everything she says is what i think. She's has the right to say what she thinks though its a free country and freedoom of speech. I'm American, what happened to our foundations? God fearing, honorable and loving people and nation? It died with Lincoln.

If you want to hear a song that will make you cry your eyes out and shake your head with pain listen to this song
YouTube - P!nk - Dear Mr. President Offical Video
Good luck to any of you soldiers, i don't know you but i know your honestly thinking your changing the world. Realize maybe your not maybe your all just pawns in a childish game.

Ohh and on this matter i speak my veiws, my fiance's, my family's and anyone else who agree's. So don't think im speaking for all America. Thank you.

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hvacservicetech_07 disagrees: you are FREE because these men and women are fighting for you! So just sit in front of your computer, jack off and run your mouth as usual.
Jesushelper76 agrees: Even though others disagreed. I agreed with everything you said in your post and feel exactly the same ways. War is pointless. War is endless. I would refuse to go to war, and let them imprison me or kill me before I kill anybody else.
Nicole G : Well My name is Greg and I was just setting my gf on here... I totally agree. Naive!
Synnen disagrees: I think that anyone who is naive enough to believe that all war is pointless should go back to being subservient to a king, a pope and a man. The rights that you have were won by wars.
ETWolverine disagrees: Sorry, Rayne, I gotta disagree. War has solved more problems and ended more human rights abuses than any other solution in history. War isn't pointless, its a fact of life. Try telling Ghenghis Khan or Alexander the Great that war is pointless.
 
 
     
 
 
Old May 27, 2007, 06:25 AM   #7  
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WWiraq:

I only speak for myself,

Rosie O'donnel has the right to express herself. That being said I think she is an ignorant, hateful idiot, and so is anyone who would spit on another person just because they were in uniform. These people do not have the balls to go beyond themselved and put it all on the line [ life limb family ] to serve our country.

I want the US to militarily and politically kick some a.., get the job done and come home.
That or lets just stop wasting time being targets and bring everyone back home NOW.
The management of this war has been horrendus.

I think you can be against the war and support our troops. No, not one of those magnets you put on your car. I mean support their families, visit or volunteer at a veterans hospital, pray for them.

God Bless


Grace and Peace

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Allheart agrees: Bingo!
Megg disagrees: The job will never be done, if more countless ppl are dying and fighting in a poinless war
 
 
     
 
 
Old May 27, 2007, 06:28 AM   #8  
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Rayne my sweet - You say you don't support it - but surely you support our brave men and women, the very ones that continue to keep your right to speak alive and well . Surely you do.

And I will continue to shout it to the roof tops, my love, loyatly and pride of our brave men and woman.

May God continue to watch over them.

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Auttajasi agrees: We need more people like you in the World.
 
 
     
 
 
Old May 27, 2007, 06:32 AM   #9  
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No i don't. I'm offended that you try to make me conform to your way of thinking. I think if a person wants to join a war with no point then let them. But they prolly aren't coming home. I don't support the war, so i also don't support the ppl in the war. If anything i may feel sorry for them. If they'd not go, then maybe the war would end. But ppl keep being suckered into going. If they die, they die doing nothing but fighting in a pointless war. Die doing something better. Like fighting this stupid government. Change the world in our own country. USA needs ppl here, to make changes, not continents away. And i can go as far as to say that its those ppl going to war that keep this war alive.

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deedee06 disagrees: many people choose to join the army because they feel it is there civic duty, not because they support the war... im sure many soldiers do not support the war but they support their country and therefore fight for their country
 
 
     
 
 
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Raynefreak:

#1 Their death is not pointless.
#2 I don't think you understand the courage it takes to serve and possibly die for your country.
#3 President Bush was elected twice, he may not be the best, but the voters thought he was better than Gore or Kerry.
#4 I think young teens can think for themselves

Thank You for your opinion


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hvacservicetech_07 agrees: the sad this is that this world is full of cowards like this rayne!!
Greg Quinn agrees: That's ridiculous on so many levels.
CaptainRich agrees: R-freak is ill-informed or ill-advised
 
 
     


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