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Aug 12, 2008, 10:52 AM
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Obama's foreign campaign contrubutions
So far, Obama has received $2.8 million from overseas. Do you think he really has enough AMERICAN supporters living abroad to provide that much support?
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Junior Member
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Aug 12, 2008, 04:43 PM
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Two point eight million... a drop in the bucket. Why the concern whether he has friends outside of continental United States.
Might you think there is many Americans living abroad who think Obama might make a decent President.
There are about 100, 000 Americans living in the Greater Toronto Area... I suppose many of them are Democrats who might wish to make a contribution to Obama's campaign.
Might you be a friend or supporter of the guy in Cincinnati... Bill Cunningham.
He can be heard on Cincinnati radio WLW.. 700 a.m. every night and he's on many stations across the U.S. on Sunday night.
He's got a thorn up his... about Obama's heritage. He comes out with some of the most blatant anti-Obama rantings heard anywhere.
He takes calls... he'll tell you "You're a great American"... when you fall for his line.
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Senior Member
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Aug 12, 2008, 04:46 PM
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Yes. Absolutely. Two-point-eight million is only a years profit for many Americans that have successful business interests, or that maintain legal dual citizenship with inheritance abroad. There are plenty of checking accounts that are brokerage attached to low sevens (one to three million USD).
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Senior Member
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Aug 13, 2008, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
If that is the only foreign donation that has slipped through the cracks I would be very suprised.
You wouldn't be surprised with Bush or McCain though, huh? Wink, wink. Two-point-eight-million, twenty-nine K... Republicans make that in one under the table luncheon.
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Ultra Member
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Aug 13, 2008, 01:41 PM
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In any case it's not like a donation of $30,000 is enough to get any special attention to whatever cause they might want to try and push on Obama once he's president anyway...
It's barely even worth mentionning, it even says in the article these people lied and said they're from Georgia just so they would be able to send the money, yet somehow some people want to use this as something negative about Barack.
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Ultra Member
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Aug 14, 2008, 03:18 AM
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The question is if the contribution is legal or not. Obama should be compelled to return any illegal contribution.
Bobby if you have proof that McCain has received illegal contributuons please show the evidence.
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Ultra Member
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Aug 14, 2008, 04:26 AM
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A Google search does not constitute "proof"
The Rothchilds ? The conspircacy wackos will have a field day!
For the rest of the lazy Google search it appears that they are talking about bundling . As I said ,so long as bundling is allowed ;it will be very difficult to track where contributions come from . If McCain has received illegal contributions what I said about Obama still applies... they should be returned.
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Senior Member
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Aug 14, 2008, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
the question is if the contribution is legal or not. Obama should be compelled to return any illegal contribution.
So? McCain should be compelled to return any illegal contributions.
Originally Posted by tomder55
Bobby if you have proof that McCain has received illegal contributuons please show the evidence.
Tom, I have a family. Do you think I have a death wish?? That I want to be unemployed and looking over my shoulder constantly?? In Vegas, I've seen more money flow in one day than most men will accumulate upon retirement if they combined their Social Security, IRAs, and 401K. You really are naïve about politicians and power.
I did a quick Google search just using the words, "McCain took illegal contributions." This yielded over one million two hundred and seventy thousand hits. Now if somebody has the chutzpah and the money to buy a legal team to take on any of the high profile politicians go ahead. For myself, I know how to stay in my own backyard. I'm not wrestling with Snake Eyes McCain or Chicago-land Obama. I'm voting for Obama, not because I think he's an alter boy, but because I prefer him over the Republican candidate.
Video: McCain's Bad Week: Paris, Tire Gauges, and Illegal Contributions
"there's an extremely damaging A1 story in the Washington Post this morning that is the result of Obama's recent ads mentioning the $2 million McCain has collected from the oil companies since his change of heart on drilling. There's a throughline between the focus on lobbyists and oil companies and bundlers and donations and this story:
The bundle of $2,300 and $4,600 checks that poured into Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign on March 12 came from an unlikely group of California donors: a mechanic from D&D Auto Repair in Whittier, the manager of Rite Aid Pharmacy No. 5727, the 30-something owners of the Twilight Hookah Lounge in Fullerton.
But the man who gathered checks from them is no stranger to McCain -- he shuttled the Republican on his private plane and held a fundraising event for the candidate at his house in Delray Beach, Fla.
Harry Sargeant III, a former naval officer and the owner of an oil-trading company that recently inked defense contracts potentially worth more than $1 billion, is the archetype of a modern presidential money man. The law forbids high-level supporters from writing huge checks, but with help from friends in the Middle East and the former chief of the CIA's bin Laden unit -- who now serves as a consultant to his company -- Sargeant has raised more than $100,000 for three presidential candidates from a collection of ordinary people, several of whom professed little interest in the outcome of the election [...]
Earlier this week, McCain drew questions about more than $60,000 in donations that were made this year to the Republican National Committee and his campaign by an office manager with the Hess oil company and her husband, an Amtrak track foreman. In that case, the couple said they used their own money.
Some of the most prolific givers in Sargeant's network live in modest homes in Southern California's Inland Empire. Most had never given a political contribution before being contacted by Sargeant or his associates. Most said they have never voiced much interest in politics. And in several instances, they had never registered to vote. And yet, records show, some families have ponied up as much as $18,400 for various candidates between December and March. Both Sargeant and the donors were vague when asked to explain how Sargeant persuaded them to give away so much money.
There's at the very least the impression of straw donations here, an appearance of impropriety. I know that McCain is not in control of his own campaign, but all the connections to Big Oil and shady lobbyists and curious donations ought to take its toll"
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