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Tell me when the EU constitution is passed that the Europeans support the EU over national sovereignty . I will never support a quasi-government of unelected bureaucrats .
there will be a new administrative division of europe . now it use word "territorial units for statistic . " there will be no states in eu in few decades .
type in " nomenclature of territorial units for statistic " at wikipedia and find out more .
by the way most of european countries are ethnic country of some nation . usa and canada are definitely not .
N.U.T.S. how fitting !!! Nomenclature of Territorial Units for Statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That just fortifies my point. They are not forging a nation ;just technocratic mumbo-jumbo forcing peoples of different nations and cultures together for the smooth transfer of goods . The only thing unifying in the EU is the currency. They will fail in their attempt to forge a unified political Europe . Caesars have failed to do so in the past and this bureaucratic puschitz will ultimately fail also.
They tried to pass the Constitution and France and the Dutch rejected it. They resurrected a confusing and muddled version of it
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What was done in the [Lisbon] Treaty, and deliberately, was to mix everything up. If you look for the passages on institutions, they're in different places, on different pages," he said.
"Someone who wanted to understand how the thing worked could with the Constitutional Treaty, but not with this one."
Valéry Giscard d'Estaing
Still the Irish apparently rejected it. But not to be undone Giscard d'Estaing has changed the rules and now says that it doesn't need unanamous consent of the members to pass.
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France and Germany are putting pressure on Ireland to hold a second referendum which would allow the Lisbon Treaty to come into force before European elections on June 4 2009.
Mr Giscard d'Estaing believes "there is no alternative" to a second Irish vote, a view shared by Nicolas Sarkozy, the French President.
Mr Sarkozy, who takes over the EU's rotating presidency next week, will use a Brussels summit on October 15 to force Ireland to find a way out of Europe's Treaty difficulties.
"Everyone agrees it has to be sorted out by the time of European elections," he said at the weekend.
Václav Klaus, the Czech President has continued to insist that the Lisbon Treaty "cannot come into force" after the Irish vote.
"The EU cannot ignore its own rules. The Lisbon Treaty has been roundly and democratically rejected by Ireland, and it therefore cannot come into force," he told El Pais newspaper.
"Any attempt to ignore this fact and make recourse to pressure and political manipulation to move the treaty forward would have disastrous consequences."
Mark François, Conservative spokesman on Europe, also insisted that it was time that European politicians started to respect the Irish No vote.
"The Irish people gave an emphatic No to the Treaty of Lisbon on a record turnout and it would be good for politicians of all countries to respect this democratic decision," he said.
every country accept european laws on here on stage . for example great britain and ireland are not jet in schengen agreement . some eu countries will implement it later . ( see map ) .
but that is just a different speed for different country . about the irish no : there will be a new referendum and this time catholic church support yes answer . you know how big is a iflueance of church on Irish people .
when n.u.t.s. become more operative they will be a elecional districts and the units will be represented in european parliament not countries any more .
by the way who care for this slow pacers ? e.u. will exist without it . there are more interestin spreading of e.u. on coteries of west balkan ,
No way would I want to relinquish our sovereignty to any NAU. Besides, with the way our Supreme Court is basing rulings and the leftists desire to be like (and be liked by) Europe, I expect Obama to make joining the EU a part of his platform.
The further away from the grassroots a government is, the less responsive it is to personal liberty. That would be true for a NA union, the UN, or the World Court. I am adamantly against ANY surrender of USA soverignity.
From a security perspective, it's a great idea. It's much easier guarding oceanfront than 6,000 miles of unguarded and unfenced land borders. We just need to make Mexico and Canada states. That'll make the illegal immigration issue go away, and it'll probably stop the narco traffic in cocaine from Columbia (which transists through Mexico).
Plus, Mexico and Canada have plenty of oil!! Yeah, I think it's a perty good idea.
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