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Old Jun 7, 2007, 02:39 AM
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Making English the official language of the U.S.

The opposition in Congress to making English the official language of the United States is a near perfect example of the failure of the current leadership in Washington to adopt a deeply held value of the American people. Eighty-five percent of Americans want the federal government to join with 30 states in making English the official language of the United States, and yet our elites consider the adoption of this value as a distraction or worse.

Consider the Democrat presidential debate Sunday . When asked for a show of hands, Mike Gravel was the only candidate to express support for English. Barack Obama said that the question "is designed precisely to divide us" and that "when we get distracted by those kinds of questions, I think we do a disservice to the American people." If 85% of Americans support English as the official language of government, the only division is between Senator Obama and the American people.

Evita Clinton responded that she supported English as the "national" language but not the "official" language of the United States, since making English the official language would prevent the printing of foreign language ballots for U.S. elections.

It seems that only the elites can possibly see 85% support for a deeply held American value as divisive and think it is acceptable to express support for English as long as it does not actually have any meaning.

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Old Jun 11, 2007, 11:41 AM   #61  
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" There are no important jobs or positions that accommodates any language but English, no schools of higher learning, no govt jobs, so what good would it do to say "

So far.
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History tells us that immigrants will assimilate, without legislation as to an official languange
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Old Jun 11, 2007, 02:20 PM   #63  
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1.) Make up a language
2.) Sue government for not providing the voting ballot in your new language
3.) profit
I found step 2!!!
Why the government needs to only be required to provide things in one language.
It's stupid and you can say that won't happen all you want but it's not any worse than half of the lawsuits that people file and sometimes win now a days.
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Old Jun 12, 2007, 01:19 AM   #64  
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There's another reason that you're not saying. As long as you don't say it, I'm left to think it's racism.

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I already gave you my reasoning .Accept them or not . The cost of printing was not my motive ;you brought it up .See post #4and # 8 .

If I'm a racist then the 85 % of Americans who agree with the position I take and the majority of the immigrants cited in 2 polls are also racists .
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Where did you get the "85%" figure anyway?
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Old Jun 12, 2007, 02:23 AM   #66  
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Refer to post # 39

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The immigrants themselves when polled agree . 3,000 Hispanic adults were polled by the Pew Hispanic Center in December, 2002. 91% of foreign-born Latino immigrants agree that learning English is essential to succeed in the U.S. The Carnegie Corporation poll showed by a 2-1 that immigrants say the U.S. should expect new immigrants to learn English. And I already cited a Rasmussen and a Zogby poll that showed 85 % of Americans favor English as the official language........
And it makes perfect sense . I would not move to Spain or Mexico without learning Spanish nor would I expect any accommodation by their govt to publish bilingual information on my behalf.

The legislation in question is the The S.I. Hayakawa National Language Amendment Act of 2007, offered by Sen. James Inhofe as a rider to the recent comprehensive immigration bill . WEBCommentary(tm) - Far left opposes English as official language in U.S.


By a bi-partisan vote of 64-33, the U.S. Senate passed the amendment .

Under the amendment, English would be declared the national language of the United States government, calling upon federal agencies to "preserve and enhance the role of English as the national language of the United States of America."
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I just can't see what significant changes having English as the official language of the USA, could bring at this time, other than to be a wedge of division, and distract us from the real issues of border security, and immigration reforms.

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tomder55 agrees: I agree with you that all those issues are important . I do not think they can be addressed comprehensively . I never intended to make this as big an issue as it has. My point was to illustrate the disconnect from the public by the elected leaders .
ETWolverine agrees: If we aren't all arguing in the same language about those issues, nothing will ever get solved.
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If every document released by government, at any level, was "required" to publish, either in print or online, in all the languages spoken in the United States today, it would be boggling to begin to attempt and financially a disaster. If English was the "Official" language, by law, the burden would be on the non-English speakers. Someone pointed out earlier that some things are already bilingual. Nothing wrong with that, but the burden shouldn't be foisted upon government to try keeping up.

The non-English speakers are the ones who are burdened and harmed socially by not knowing English. Also, which immigrant group is demanding that all English government documents be printed and published in all immigrant languages as you seem to be indicating? Additionally, I really don't see why an effort should be made to make things more difficult for these people than they already are. If you really want to economize on tax dollars, as you seem, to say you do, then it would be more relevant to focus on foreign policy wherein countries like Communist Korea and Islamic countries such as Jordan receive a generous portion of your cherished tax dollars while you complain about government pamphlet printing. Such an attitude might lead some to conclude that you adhere to a biased double standard.


United States 2004 Foreign Aid
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ECONOMIC AND MILITARY ASSISTANCE TO ALLIES AND STRATEGIC AREAS

Economic Support Fund $2,132 million (The largest recipients by country are: Egypt $575 million; Israel $480 million; Jordan $250 million; West Bank/Gaza $75 million)

International Military Education and Training (IMET) $92 million

Foreign Military Financing Program $4,394 million. (The largest recipients are Israel, $2,160 million, Egypt $1,300 million and Jordan, $206 million.)


ASSISTANCE TO EASTERN EUROPE AND THE FORMER SOVIET UNION

Assistance for Eastern Europe and the Baltic States $445 million

Assistance for the Independent States of the Former Soviet Union $587 million


Contribution to the (World Bank) International Development Association $913 million

Contribution to the Asian Development Fund $144 million

Contributions to the Africa Development Fund and Bank $150 million

World Hunger Notes -- 2004 United States Foreign Aid Appropriations


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excon agrees: yup
talaniman agrees: Double yup, and wow.
CaptainRich agrees: True. I didn't say I agree with all of Gov't spending.
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It's their problem if they can't speak the defacto language.
That's all I've been saying. Thankyou, Dear Neighbor!
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Perhaps someone should require Telemundo to broadcast in English, or El Nuevo Herald be in English as well. tomder55 was right to say if we traveled to another country, we would attempt to learn their language.
Just keeping it fair.
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