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Asked Feb 21, 2008, 05:08 AM — 42 Answers
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The ACLU of Washington has producted a 30 minute infomercial on pot legalization. Rick Steves, the travel guru who has a show on PBS is the host. It's only available here so far, but I'll bet it shows up on youtube in short order.

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Is this a good thing?

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Feb 21, 2008, 10:42 AM
The Dutch tried it and it backfired on them .Consumption tripled . There has since been a backlash and now 73% of Dutch towns have banned those famous cannabis cafes.

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Professor Hamid Ghodse, president of the INCB, said: "There has been a crucial and significant change in the Dutch cannabis policy. They now say for the first time that cannabis is not harmless and that coffee shops are not blameless."

Among the measures being introduced is a pilot scheme in the province of Limburg which bans foreigners from buying drugs in coffee shops, to kill the trade in tourists coming over the nearby borders with Germany and Belgium. A study is being made of strong forms of cannabis, which is likely to lead to a ban of these varieties. In addition the police are targeting people who grow cannabis at home.
AMSTERDAM FALLS OUT OF LOVE WITH COFFEE SHOPS AS LIBERAL STANCE ON DRUGS BEGINS TO CRUMBLE

The Canadians have also been trying decriminalization. The drug's use had been steadily dropping there but now usage levels are back up to where they were in the 1970s .....doubling since 1994 . Experts say that the kids got mixed messages about the dangers of the drug at the same time it was being decriminalized. Clearly the "education " factor will not work unless you have a consistent message behind it. This has coincided with an increase in the use of illegal injectable drugs in the country making one think that the gateway argument is a little more than a myth. The increase in taxes would not mitigate the great risks involved in going down the path of legalization .
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Feb 21, 2008, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
The Canadians have also been trying decriminalization. The drug's use had been steadily dropping there but now usage levels are back up to where they were in the 1970s .....doubling since 1994 . Experts say that the kids got mixed messages about the dangers of the drug at the same time it was being decriminalized.
I think it may be more to do with *smoking* as such. As an ex-smoker I've noticed the decline in numbers of smokers in general. Maybe the heavy taxation, the ban on indoor smoking in commercial areas and the general trend towards healthy living may be the bigger contributing factors.
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Feb 21, 2008, 11:17 AM
Maybe it should be legalized, but what about the children of pot smokers? Have you ever seen a potsmoker try to take care of a child while high? Also, who's to help those kids? Have you ever heard of a contact high? If their parents are smoking pot, they are more than likely in the room also... Where do you draw the line.... I don't know if I am for or against legalization
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Feb 21, 2008, 11:23 AM
Mirandycc

What about alcohol ….I think you are mixing issues. Irresponsible parentage is a different issue.
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Feb 21, 2008, 11:27 AM
You are right... I just always think of children before everything else, and the consequences it would put on them
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Feb 21, 2008, 11:39 AM
No it is not irrelevent . She makes a very valid point about 2nd hand smoke.
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Feb 21, 2008, 11:42 AM
I feel most things in life come hand in hand. You can not have one thing without it affecting another area. Maybe not affecting you but maybe someone else. I was just saying, if it were legalized... What about the children...just like a lot of people say if it were legal.... More focus on heavier drugs.... What is the difference? Please explain
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Feb 21, 2008, 11:42 AM
Careful with the assumptions Tom, it does not follow that with the legalization of Pot parents will smoke in the presence of their children.
mirandycc (Feb 21, 2008 11:43 AM): like the legalization of cig. or alcohol...do parents do it in front of, or while caring for their children? of course they do   Source:
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Feb 21, 2008, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mirandycc
I feel most things in life come hand in hand. You can not have one thing without it affecting another area. Maybe not affecting you but maybe someone else. I was just saying, if it were legalized... What about the children...just like a lot of people say if it were legal.... More focus on heavier drugs.... What is the difference? Please explain
I think most people miss the point, some people enjoy the effects of pot and others don
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Feb 21, 2008, 12:10 PM
[ The idea that it leads to the use of dangerous drugs is preposterous.[/quote]
The part where I said more focus on heavier drugs was meant to be, the law enforcement looking for the heavier drugs instead of marijuana
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