Do you believe they are a cancer on our society, bleeding our resources, polluting our urban landscape and threatening our security?


What can be done politically to rid America of this abomination; the poor who are feckless, hopeless, lacking self-worth, motivation and any common levels of decency. We cannot afford to let them breed another generation of their kind.

nicespringgirl

Some of the riches started as poor then they work really hard to achieve their wealth so don't judge them based on their income level. You never know,maybe those rich do charity helping others and have a lot of responsiblity for his/her family. Not all riches are materialistic, some of them live frugally, and sending money to their family relatives who need it more than she does.
I hate the rich who don't work hard, like the spoiled rich kids, who don't understand the dollar value of money.

ETWolverine

Even the so-called "idle rich" give value added to society.

The Hiltons are a perfect example. If not for their wealth, for their family's hotel empire, how many people would be unemployed in the hotel services industry? The Hilton companies have tens of thousands of employees. Take away the Hilton companies, and tens of thousands of people go unemployed. Plus think of all the others that are supported by the Hilton companies: outside contactors that do repairs and maintenance to the hotels that the in-house staff can't, elevator companies, computer providers, internet companies, telecom providers and maintenance people, restaurants, electricians, lighbulb manufacturers, glass and window companies, food wholesalers, toiletries manufacturers, key-card manufacturers, etc.

Being angry at or hating the rich is unproductive. The rich are the ones who provide jobs to everyone else. Not to mention the fact that they foot 80%+ of the tax bill of the US government.

Elliot

Dark_crow

That’s a terrible argument, Elliot; supply and demand would have provided the hotel space needed. Instead of one owner there may have been been its place twenty or thirty separate owners, whatever the case, demand for hotel space would have been supplied by someone.

Harvey1955

I wonder who would gather the food if not for the poor?

ETWolverine

DC,

By who? If thee were no rich people to buy the space, develop the hotel and run the hotel, who would provide the hotel space? Yeah, their names may have been Smith, Jones and Williams instead of Hilton. Yeah, none of them may have been quite as big as hilton. But they would still be rich from operating the business, and they would still need to have capital (investment wealth) to start the business, and continued cash-flow (available income) in order to run the business. They would still be the ones employing thousands of people. And they would still be rich. You can't escape wealth in a capitalist society. Being angry at rich people for being rich is pointless.

Tell me... how many people are supported by jobs created by the poor? That's not a reason to dislike the poor. But we need to understand where jobs to help the poor come from.

Elliot

Dark_crow

There are not just two classes of people, Elliot. There are all sorts of adjectives you can place in front of each of those nouns. What you have said here does not change the terrible argument in the previous post…now come on…

magprob

My post stating that I hate the rich was simply an illustration to show how very moronic it is to pick any scocio-economic class and choose to hate them. To hate anyone is really a useless, nonproductive endeavor. Especially when one should be utilizing one's time building wealth or dumpster diving. Take your choice because it really is YOUR choice.

ETWolverine

Don't you see, DC, in a world where anyone earning more than $80,000 is considered "rich" and anyone earning less than $40,000 is considered poor, there's no room for a middle class. In that scenario, which is the one presented by the liberals, there really is only a two-class system of "rich" and "poor".

The point is that rich people create jobs. Poor people do not. Eliminate some of the rich, and they will indeed be replaced by others who will also be rich. But if you eliminate the entire rich class, the result will not be more people who become rich. The result will instead be a single class of unemployed poor people.

So the so-called "idle rich" who own the businesses are the majo source of jobs in this country. Period. There is no denying that fact. Eliminating them will eliminate those jobs they created. Ergo, we need the rich. Railing against them is pointless and detrimental.

Elliot

magprob

Ahhh yes but, if Hilary creates a socialistic health care system, thousands of politicians and bureaucrats will become rich. Now that's spreading it around or, the trickle down effect.

Dark_crow

Poor and rich are relative terms and to make a distinction between them as you have negates the whole history surrounding the meaning of the terms.
Anatole France, one of my favorite authors, wrote in the Red Lily:
The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.
There is an example of poor and $40,000 a year requires no begging in the streets, stealing bread or sleeping under bridges.
And an income of $80,000 won’t get you into your own home in most places in the U.S.
The idle rich is not a requirement for providing employment; supply and demand in a free market is what creates jobs…period.