What do you think is the best form of government? Monarchy? like the middle east or astrocracy which i dont think exists anymore, or democratic which most of the countries claim to be!

NeedKarma

Funny that, when facts get in the way.
But what do you do when somewhat pointely disagress with a post? They aren't posting their opinion, they are saying why you are wrong. Natural human reaction to set the person straight.

ScottGem

Spread feature won't allow me to comment so I have to reply.

This bears on what I have been saying in this thread:

http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/forum-h...ing-26247.html

Fred disagreed with a statement I made, which is his right. In disagreeing, he presented some facts that he felt backed up his disagreement. So far so good. If those facts did disprove my statement, then my next move would be to recant. However, those facts did not disprove my statement. The facts did not consider other facts. So instead of recanting, I responded with facts that support my statement and show Fred's disagreement as incorrect.

All this was done, politely and within the guidelines.

The next move, should have been Fred's acknowledgement that my point was correct and recanting his disagreement. Instead he responds with an incorrect characterization of what he actually said. Fine! So that leaves me to respond by showing what he actually said and how it was incorrect.

Again, all this is done with civility, no name calling or apparent violations of rules.

But the point is that my statement was disagreed with, indicating I was wrong. the problem is I was not wrong, Fred was. So I should have the right to defend my position. Which is what I have done.

RickJ

We get tired of disagreements turning into major debates.

One can post an opinion and another can disagree...that's fine. But if you want to start a debate over the success, or lack of it, of Communism in China, start a new thread.

Who is wrong here is a matter of opinion.

NeedKarma

That's what I like about this place, you can post anything you want. If someone calls you on it you simply report it to the admins. Cool.

RickJ

No one has called anyone on it. I sensed back at #28 that this would turn into one of the famous "fred-scott" debates...

So when should we stop these catfights that go so far beyond the simple question that the asker asked?

NeedKarma

I thought it was going fine until someone decided to disagree with a specific post.

RickJ

Let's take the debate part of this here:
http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/active-...put-26310.html

...further answers to the initial poster's question here on Government are invited.

ScottGem

I will try this once more and hope that I don't get censored again. But since this post is here I should be allowed to respond here.

What was actually said:


That post then went on to cite some facts that tried to support that statement. I responded with a post stating facts that disprove that statement.

I am confident that I have proven my original statement and therefore shown there is no factual basis for disagreement with it.

Jonegy

Sorry folk and folkesses - but I got a little confused on my journey from page 1 to page 4 - soooooooo ----- I went to the top of the page to look up the original question.

It appears quite simple to me - you answer with an opinion - you are not (or should not) be interested whether other people agree or disagree with that given opinion.

If people do not agree with your opinion that is their right - HOWEVER..........
their responding opinion does not come under the the context of the "original question" and therefore should be kept to themselves. As a reader I am interested in the reply - NOT the opinions of other people to that reply. I, like them may not have the same opinion - but that is not is what was asked for in the "original question"

Anyway (brushes dust off his hands ) my "opinion"..................

We all live in some sort of Dictatorship - here in the UK and probably the majority of the "west", they are "Elected Dictatorships" - you vote them in to do your bidding (your think ? ) and they tell you what you are going to do.

Hhhhmmmmmm - maybe it's time for another Revolution