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Old Jan 12, 2008, 04:36 PM
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George W, good or bad?

Since George W. Bush is nearing the end of his term, what do you think his legacy will be?

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Old Jan 14, 2008, 01:22 AM   #61  
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twinkiedooter agrees: And I suppose you believe the moon is made out of green cheese as well. Apparently you don't read anything but newspapers to get your so called "news" do you?

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If all I did was read newspapers I would certainly agree with you that his Presidency has been a failure. You must be new here because if you knew me better you would know my critiques of publishings like the NY Slimes and Washington Compost.
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Old Jan 14, 2008, 01:31 AM   #62  
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Old Jan 14, 2008, 08:37 AM   #63  
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I think overall Bush has been a fairly good president, far better than he's depicted - even though he's had his share missteps and faults - and I agree with tom that history will judge him far kinder down the road.

For those who think he's been a global disaster I have to ask how objective your opinion is? Other than a brief swoon after 9/11 the man has been under relentless attack since he first ran for president. There are still people complaining that he stole the 2000 election and actually afraid he will establish his theocracy before the end of his term instead of stepping aside for the next president. As recently as July, Harvey Wasserman & Bob Fitrakis wrote a column on CommonDreams.org fearing Bush might cancel the election. Come on, how sane is that?

Until the surge's success in Iraq we've been bombarded for years with daily death tolls, suicide bombings and other stories of Bush's failure (funny how the Iraq news has slowed to a crawl). When the Trojan horse Democrats took control of Congress they initiated an untold number of investigations (have any of those shown anything yet?) of the Bush administration, they've pounded him relentlessly on Iraq, torture, justice dept lawyers and a host of other issues. "Entertainers" have made it their sole cause to destroy the man, equating him to Hitler and calling him racist in spite of his most diverse administration. Is there any wonder people would have a negative opinion of the man after the all out assault he's been under for almost 8 years now? Just today an al-AP article graced the front page of my paper opening with this:

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The unemployment rate leaps to a two-year high, record numbers of people are forced from their homes and Wall Street nose-dives again. Such is the fallout from a housing meltdown that threatens to slingshot the country into a recession

I don't know, isn't unemployment usually rather fickle around Christmas? Why should I feel sorry for people that got in over their heads with their mortgage? How is losing your home because you did get in over your head being "forced" from your home? How many of you actually think Bush is behind this subprime mess? Who has been the real fear monger the past 8 years, Bush and the Republicans or the mainstream media and Democrats?

How objective is your opinion? How are you doing? Worried about terrorists blowing up your neighborhood mall? Is your IRA growing? Have a job? Or has Bush ruined your life exactly as has been portrayed?

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BABRAM agrees: Actually it goes back several admins: http://rationalrevolution0.tripod.com/war/bush_family_and_the_s.htm. The hot air you hear will be coming from the Giants secondary as they are toasted by Favre this weekend.
boredINmind disagrees: When my mom and all of my friends were laid-off and started looking for jobs that just ain't there, I should have just told them that it is their fault. Blaming the leader of our country for a SILLY little economic depression due to his WAR! SILLY ME
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All I know is that the country is in ruins and it is mismanagement, the governments with its deficit and the war. That is his only only thing that he has done in government was to push for a war that never should have been. How much money could have been spent else where???

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What I don't like is that there appears to be little fiscal accountability in terms of money spent or allocated for the war. Where are all these biilions going. And why haven't the gas prices lowered but instead have steadily increased which in turn makes the price of the tea in China increase if you know what I mean.
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Worst US president: Franklin Roosevelt (thought he should have been king)
Best US president: George Washington (didn't want to be king)
With FDR being "1" and G Washington "10", Reagan is 9; W is 7
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All I know is that the country is in ruins and it is mismanagement, the governments with its deficit and the war. That is his only only thing that he has done in government was to push for a war that never should have been. How much money could have been spent else where???

The country is in ruins? According to who and by what indicators? Last time I checked the country was doing ok. Where I am we still have a robust housing market, construction has been taking place at record levels, unemployment is low, we have new industry springing up everywhere and the mood is quite optimistic...exception among those suffering from BDS, their panties are always in a wad. For such an 'incompetent boob' he sure holds a lot of power over them.
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both parties fail to address the financial irresponsibility that needs to be addressed now.

i dont care if you are a dem who wants to raise taxes and spend on social issues, or a rep who wants to lower taxes and spend on the war... btw, ive been a longtime registered independent, just changed to rep since i lean that way and i wanted to participate in the caucus, but honestly, neither party has really earned my affiliation. yuk and yuk.

U.S. Heading For Financial Trouble?, Comptroller Says Medicare Program Endangers Financial Stability - CBS News
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For those who think he's been a global disaster I have to ask how objective your opinion is? Other than a brief swoon after 9/11 the man has been under relentless attack since he first ran for president. There are still people complaining that he stole the 2000 election and actually afraid he will establish his theocracy before the end of his term instead of stepping aside for the next president. As recently as July, Harvey Wasserman & Bob Fitrakis wrote a column on CommonDreams.org fearing Bush might cancel the election. Come on, how sane is that?

Until the surge's success in Iraq we've been bombarded for years with daily death tolls, suicide bombings and other stories of Bush's failure (funny how the Iraq news has slowed to a crawl). When the Trojan horse Democrats took control of Congress they initiated an untold number of investigations (have any of those shown anything yet?) of the Bush administration, they've pounded him relentlessly on Iraq, torture, justice dept lawyers and a host of other issues. "Entertainers" have made it their sole cause to destroy the man, equating him to Hitler and calling him racist in spite of his most diverse administration. Is there any wonder people would have a negative opinion of the man after the all out assault he's been under for almost 8 years now? Just today an al-AP article graced the front page of my paper opening with this:


I dont know Steve, but perhaps all these journalists, entertainers and the voting public may be right. If the there is such a large number of people from all walks of life who dislike his presidency maybe there is good reason. Or is it just that everyone else is wrong??

The relentless attack may be justified. Thats politics. You are subject to the judgment of the public you govern. And as you've said the people he governs and indeed millions in the rest of the world seem to generally have a fairly negative outlook on him and his presidency.

Like i said, where there's smoke there's fire.

In saying that i will grant you that many of these will not have made up their own mind. They are not smart enough to do so, so they believe what they are told. But many others are smart enough to make up there own mind and even some of those people here who are his supporters admit that he will be looked upon poorly. Perhaps that is saying something.
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Skell agrees: Where there's smoke there's................

Usually someone blowing it?

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