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Old Jan 12, 2008, 04:36 PM
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George W, good or bad?

Since George W. Bush is nearing the end of his term, what do you think his legacy will be?

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Old Jan 14, 2008, 01:44 PM   #71  
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I dont know Steve, but perhaps all these journalists, entertainers and the voting public may be right. If the there is such a large number of people from all walks of life who dislike his presidency maybe there is good reason. Or is it just that everyone else is wrong??

I question whether it's so many people "from all walks of life" or just the loudest.

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The relentless attack may be justified. Thats politics. You are subject to the judgment of the public you govern. And as you've said the people he governs and indeed millions in the rest of the world seem to generally have a fairly negative outlook on him and his presidency.

Accountability, sure. Dislike, it's gonna be there. But the outright hatred and the refusal to acknowledge anything positive about the man I've witnessed over the years? It isn't justified.

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Like i said, where there's smoke there's fire.

Well now, then what have they actually got on Bush after all these years of investigations and allegations? Should be an easy question to answer. Why has he not been impeached if he has done all he's accused of?

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In saying that i will grant you that many of these will not have made up their own mind. They are not smart enough to do so, so they believe what they are told. But many others are smart enough to make up there own mind and even some of those people here who are his supporters admit that he will be looked upon poorly. Perhaps that is saying something.

Now we're getting somewhere Skell. I'd be willing to bet most of those that are so disillusioned with Bush know more about what's happening on American Idol or Desperate Housewives than they actually know about Bush. Where there's smoke there tends to be a lot of hot air
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Usually someone blowing it?

Haha. Very good. Ill pay that!
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Old Jan 14, 2008, 04:10 PM   #73  
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BABRAM agrees:The hot air you hear will be coming from the Giants secondary as they are toasted by Favre this weekend.

Guess he'll watch alot of game film of the Cowboys gettin it done then .

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BABRAM agrees: What?! I was giving the G-men a compliment, well sort of.:) Now! I'll do the hating on my team, thank you. My beloved C'boys whole offence, other than TO and Barber, looked like a hot air towering inferno and our def backs folded like cheap suits.
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The truth is that the 'boys came within a great last second interception from winning the game . I was ready to scream . When I was in Kansas the boys were the NFC regional game . I got to watch Roger Staubach lead them to last minute victories week after week. I was having horrible flashbacks.
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Guess he'll watch alot of game film of the Cowboys gettin it done then .

Ahem, even though the score wasn't in our favor the Boys did hold the Giants to only 57 yards in the second half. It was just that yard where Jacobs crossed the goal line that killed us
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Bobby

The truth is that the 'boys came within a great last second interception from winning the game . I was ready to scream . When I was in Kansas the boys were the NFC regional game . I got to watch Roger Staubach lead them to last minute victories week after week. I was having horrible flashbacks.


Another cheap blow to remind of the good times? Way to cheer me up "man." Just reading this I had my sunglasses on, my bottom lip shaking, and a tear was rolling down my cheek.


Teary-Eyed Owens Backs Quarterback - New York Times

“If you do that, that’s really unfair,” Owens said. “Really unfair. That’s my teammate. That’s my quarterback. We lost as a team. We lost as a team, man.”


Seriously though. It' scary when Terrell starts making sense. Now if I could get Patrick Crayton to shut up. That third down pass hit him in the worse place, his hands. This off-season I want to trade "can't catch" WR Crayton, "can't pass defend" Roy Williams, "can't tackle or cover" Jacques Reeves, and "can't find the hole" Julius Jones, for a back-up Arena league punter and three players to be named from a college practice squad.




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PS. And to keep on subject I'll trade WR Terry Glenn for Condoleeza Rice. As the ex-Cowboys coach Parcells once put it when Glenn injured his hamstring and missed the entire exhibition season with what Parcells insisted was a mild strain. Asked about Glenn one day at training camp, Parcells said, "She's making progress."
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Seriously though. It' scary when Terrell starts making sense.

Yeah, lol. And what's up with the media coverage? Hillary finally shows her human side and wins a primary - T.O. finally shows his human side and he gets mocked all day.

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Now if I could get Patrick Crayton to shut up. That third down pass hit him in the worse place, his hands. This off-season I want to trade "can't catch" WR Crayton, "can't pass defend" Roy Williams, "can't tackle or cover" Jacques Reeves, and "can't find the hole" Julius Jones, for a back-up Arena league punter and three players to be named from a college practice squad.

What's up with Crayton anyway? He used to have hands of glue. I'm with you on the others, RW was a non-factor this year (except for being flagged), they need to quit pretending Reeves has "stepped up," and I've never had much faith in Jones. I guess him running for a yard and a half and getting tackled looks much better from the sidelines than it does on TV. And while they're at it, maybe in the offseason they can figure out to how to tackle on kicks and get a kickoff past the 20. Maybe McBriar could use that strong leg to put it out of the end zone.

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PS. And to keep on subject I'll trade WR Terry Glenn for Condoleeza Rice. As the ex-Cowboys coach Parcells once put it when Glenn injured his hamstring and missed the entire exhibition season with what Parcells insisted was a mild strain. Asked about Glenn one day at training camp, Parcells said, "She's making progress."

Look at it this way, with Parcells in Miami we stand a decent chance of some of those "Parcells guy" jumping ship
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Crayton's the greatest receiver in Cowboy preseason history and hands down the most feared tenacious tackle breaker (YAC) when playing touch football. Too bad I think we're stuck with him since Jerry "4th qtr sidelines" Jones gave him a new contract recently.

One way or the other here's Crayton's replacement next season: Isaiah Stanback

The former QB Isaiah Stanback had to learn his new WR position, but was already better than Crayton this year. They stuck Stanback on the development back burner status out of respect to the older more experienced receivers.


Another dismal waste of salary to add to the departure hopes is: Flozell "offsides" Adams. He's nearly as trigger happy as one VP Cheney. Flozell after getting back from another truly unqualified trip to the Pro Bowl this season, becomes a free agent. Aloha! Lucky for us that we should send his fat tuchus packing.




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PS. Update: there are reports that OC Jason Garrett maybe the next Baltimore Ravens coach, that indeed they offered him the job. About three-quarters through our season Garrett looked like a genius and I thought for sure Jones would retain him. After his horrible decisions down the stretch starting with the play calling in Philly, that changed. Hey Jason! Don't let the door hit you in the @$$ on your way out.
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One way or the other here's Crayton's replacement next season: Isaiah Stanback


Stanback certainly has promise and he can even take Crayton's place as emergency QB. I expect Jerry to be busy again this offseason...only to watch him once again trade down on draft day.

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PS. Update: there are reports that OC Jason Garrett maybe the next Baltimore Ravens coach, that indeed they offered him the job. About three-quarters through our season Garrett looked like a genius and I thought for sure Jones would retain him. After his horrible decisions down the stretch starting with the play calling in Philly, that changed. Hey Jason! Don't let the door hit you in the @$$ on your way out.

I think Garrett's going to be ok. I can't say if it was his play calling or just the annual late season swoon we've grown accustomed to. He's also been offered the Falcons job and Jerry has offered to match any salary proposal.
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I think his morals changed shortly after he got in to office....I MISS BILL
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