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Old Sep 5, 2007, 08:34 PM
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CIA commits over 100,000 serious crimes per year.

It's no surprise that the Central Intelligence Agency breaks the law. But how much they do it is a real shocker. In 1996, the House of Representatives' Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence released a huge report entitled "IC21." Hidden among hundreds of pages of this report lies one, shocking paragraph:

The CS [clandestine service] is the only part of the IC [intelligence community], indeed of the government, where hundreds of employees on a daily basis are directed to break extremely serious laws in countries around the world in the face of frequently sophisticated efforts by foreign governments to catch them. A safe estimate is that several hundred times every day (easily 100,000 a year) DO [Directorate of Operations] officers engage in highly illegal activities (according to foreign law) that not only risk political embarrassment to the US but also endanger the freedom if not lives of the participating foreign nationals and, more than occasionally, of the clandestine officer himself.

CIA expert, John Kelly, also notes that "The CIA's crimes include terrorism, assassination, torture, and systematic violations of human rights."

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Do you think that the CIA's crime doesn't pay, or do you like how our country makes trouble for the benefit of the US?

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Old Sep 7, 2007, 06:31 AM   #31  
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Was this 1996 report part of the justification for later emasculation of the agency leading to the 911 intelligence failures?

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tomder55 agrees: good question . There was a big investigation in the 1990s led by the idiot Rep. and later Sen. Robert Torricelli. He leaked alot of info about the CIA because he was hot for Bianca Jagger.
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Excon,

It's called the social contract. We give up certain rights and liberties in exchange for the safety and security and rules provided by government. The alternative, of course, is to have NO government, no military, no protection against threats foreign and domestic, no security, no rules. It's called anarchy, and it's a pretty piss-poor way to live. So you get to choose: government, with its protections and occassional limits on your liberties, or anarchy, with its complete freedoms but no protection, no recourse for acts committed against you, and no rules except "might-makes-right". I choose the former, with the caveat that if the limits on my liberties get too burdensome, I will fight to get them back. I choose society over anarchy.

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I have to apologize to Gallivant Fellow. My rant yesterday was uncalled for. I have just become really, REALLY fed up with people who criticize our government and our soldiers (in and out of uniform) for doing their jobs of protecting our rights to criticize our government and our soldiers (in and out of uniform). I slipped into full "A Few Good Men" Jack Nicholson mode, and it was unnecessary. Sorry.

Elliot
I thought I recognized some of the stuff you said from that movie, but I didn't know for sure, so I didn't mention it. LOL

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ETWolverine agrees: Just the sentiments, not the direct quotes themselves.
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
You mean this mode?
Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Whose gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinburg? I have more responsibility here than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. I know deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you don't want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to. -Col Jessep


What a great line...
What a sick and perverted line coming from a madman.

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ETWolverine agrees: What Jessep did wrong is that he took it upon himself to break the rules set forth by his superiors in the Marine Corp. In doing so, he broke faith with the corp. and with his Marines. But he was right about what it takes to "stand a watch".
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