CIA commits over 100,000 serious crimes per year.

labman · Sep 7, 2007, 07:31 AM

Was this 1996 report part of the justification for later emasculation of the agency leading to the 911 intelligence failures?

ETWolverine · Sep 7, 2007, 07:36 AM

excon,

It's called the social contract. We give up certain rights and liberties in exchange for the safety and security and rules provided by government. The alternative, of course, is to have NO government, no military, no protection against threats foreign and domestic, no security, no rules. It's called anarchy, and it's a pretty piss-poor way to live. So you get to choose: government, with its protections and occassional limits on your liberties, or anarchy, with its complete freedoms but no protection, no recourse for acts committed against you, and no rules except "might-makes-right". I choose the former, with the caveat that if the limits on my liberties get too burdensome, I will fight to get them back. I choose society over anarchy.

Elliot

gallivant_fellow · Sep 7, 2007, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETWolverine

I have to apologize to Gallivant Fellow. My rant yesterday was uncalled for. I have just become really, REALLY fed up with people who criticize our government and our soldiers (in and out of uniform) for doing their jobs of protecting our rights to criticize our government and our soldiers (in and out of uniform). I slipped into full "A Few Good Men" Jack Nicholson mode, and it was unnecessary. Sorry.

Elliot

I thought I recognized some of the stuff you said from that movie, but I didn't know for sure, so I didn't mention it. LOL

Dark_crow · Sep 7, 2007, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

You mean this mode?
Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Whose going to do it? You? You, Lt. Weinburg? I have more responsibility here than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. I know deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you don't want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to. -Col Jessep

What a great line...

What a sick and perverted line coming from a madman.

CIA commits over 100,000 serious crimes per year.

Add your answer here.

Check out some similar questions!