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Old Jul 31, 2007, 01:17 PM
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Border Fence Raises Environmental Concerns

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The Mexican government is seeking changes to a plan that would expand fences along the United States - Mexico border. It is due to a threat to migratory species accustomed to roaming freely across the frontier. The Environment Department called on Washington to alter the border barriers. The goal is change the border where necessary because the fences could seriously hurt species that cross a 1,900 mile stretch.

Mexico also wants Washington to expand its environmental impact study on the fences. "The eventual construction of this barrier would place at risk the various ecosystems that we share," said Environment Secretary Juan Rafael Elvira. He noted that the border is not just desert, but includes mountains, rivers and wetlands.

A report prepared for the Mexican government by experts and activists from both countries said the fences could isolate border animals into smaller population groups. Thereby affecting their genetic diversity.

Environmentalists add that highly endangered species like the antelope - the Sonoran Pronghorn of which only about 100 still exist - could be wiped out in coming years. They are used to moving across the border in search of scarce grassland.
Which is worse for this environment, a fence or thousands upon thousands of illegals overrunning the land, letting campfires burn out of control, killing whatever they can find to eat and otherwise trashing the place?

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Well, I know which side of the fence you sit on! PMSL reading this thread you started.

You know what I find most curious? The fact that the Mexican government is actually concerned about the ecosystem. How progressive of them.
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Since when have Mexicans ever cared about the environment? Since we decided we wanted to put up a fence!
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Since when have Mexicans ever cared about the environment? Since we decided we wanted to put up a fence!
Yep, here's a nice shot of Mexico City:



I even hear The Goracle is taking his road show to Mexico
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Oh trust me, i know what it looks like. I've been to Ensenada, Tijuana, and Juarez. I hope and pray that the U.S. doesnt end up looking like any of those places, but its already headed in that direction.

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speechlesstx agrees: If you've been there, how can you not notice? I found Tijuana to be a sad, sad place, and that could be the kind of 'urban renewal' we're headed for if we DON'T build that fence.
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Well, I know which side of the fence you sit on! PMSL reading this thread you started.

You know what I find most curious? The fact that the Mexican government is actually concerned about the ecosystem. How progressive of them.
Hey now, besides their newfound eco-conscience, the mayor of Mexico City plans on adding 'fun' instead of just the same old "express kidnappings."
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Well, will wonders never cease! Now that is what I call a case of really taking the bull by the horns (or cajones, whatever the case may be)! What a mover and shaker he is! Do you think he has a snowball's chance of doing this during our lifetime? Ahem. Nah.
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speechlesstx agrees: If you've been there, how can you not notice? I found Tijuana to be a sad, sad place, and that could be the kind of 'urban renewal' we're headed for if we DON'T build that fence.
Oh trust me I do notice. Thats why I said we're headed in that direction. California is crap, so is Texas for the most part. Arizona and New Mexico arent THAT bad, but they're headed there too. We need to get that fence built before we become Mexico, Part 2.
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Which is worse for this environment, a fence or thousands upon thousands of illegals overrunning the land, letting campfires burn out of control, killing whatever they can find to eat and otherwise trashing the place?
As far as I'm concern the U.S. might as well make Mexico the fifty-first state. There certainly are natural resources to be shared, lots of land, and plenty workforce. As for the topic: in 1992 Mexico had one of the largest disregards for the environment and humanity on our shared continent. So disastrous it became a National Geographic special.

Chemical Blasts Rock Guadalajara



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Oh trust me I do notice. Thats why I said we're headed in that direction. California is crap, so is Texas for the most part. Arizona and New Mexico arent THAT bad, but they're headed there too. We need to get that fence built before we become Mexico, Part 2.
Hang on there, my part of Texas is booming and quite nice ... except for those Wal-Mart bags decorating our trees thanks to the wind, and those ugly Caddies

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