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The Mexican government is seeking changes to a plan that would expand fences along the United States - Mexico border. It is due to a threat to migratory species accustomed to roaming freely across the frontier. The Environment Department called on Washington to alter the border barriers. The goal is change the border where necessary because the fences could seriously hurt species that cross a 1,900 mile stretch.
Mexico also wants Washington to expand its environmental impact study on the fences. "The eventual construction of this barrier would place at risk the various ecosystems that we share," said Environment Secretary Juan Rafael Elvira. He noted that the border is not just desert, but includes mountains, rivers and wetlands.
A report prepared for the Mexican government by experts and activists from both countries said the fences could isolate border animals into smaller population groups. Thereby affecting their genetic diversity.
Environmentalists add that highly endangered species like the antelope - the Sonoran Pronghorn of which only about 100 still exist - could be wiped out in coming years. They are used to moving across the border in search of scarce grassland.
Which is worse for this environment, a fence or thousands upon thousands of illegals overrunning the land, letting campfires burn out of control, killing whatever they can find to eat and otherwise trashing the place?
I totally see what you are getting at, and it is a good point, but the white Americans having black slaves (just so you know, I really hate talking about this subject) was legal back then. People coming here illegally (not just Mexico, I might add, but the majority come from there), well, it obviously isn't legal. Now I know the migrant workers are here legally (well most of them), but the ones who aren't, don't you feel they should have SOME sort of consequence for doing something ILLEGAL?
And I never said they were dumb, they are actually pretty smart. They have figured out a way around our system so they wont have to leave. But you have to admit, their environment and how they take care of it, says at least SOMETHING about them.
Since when does legality equate with morality? Your slave system was a crime against humanity regardless of whether the perpetrators chose to legalize it or not. Japanese medical experimentation with Chinese captives was considered legal. So was Hitler's murdering six million Jews. As a matter of fact, anything can be tagged as legal and excused by anyone who wishes to practice it. But the Nuremberg Trials and other trials against the Japanese perpetrators conclusively proved that legalization has absolutely nothing to do with right or wrong. It is simply a convenient tool which can be applied when deemed convenient.
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You can't judge a whole country by what you observe in one locality. Its like going to a USA slum area and tagging the whole nation's appearance and habits based on that. Actually, this is a disconcerting tendency that Americans have. Puerto Rico is a beautiful Island. Yet, when first photographed all that was shown were two of the worse places there. El Fangito and La Perla. Why?
You know what, I feel very strongly about this issue, and all I am doing is getting pi$$ed off. I feel, they need to go home, and they need to not come here. They are draining our tax dollars, and are dirty to boot.
So, like jillian, i am also unsubscribing to this thread.
You know what, I feel very strongly about this issue, and all I am doing is getting pi$$ed off. I feel, they need to go home, and they need to not come here. They are draining our tax dollars, and are dirty to boot.
So, like jillian, i am also unsubscribing to this thread.
Have a good day everyone
You can't get any dirtier than stealing a people's land by force, destroying theor land titles so they have no legal proof they ever owned it, and then tongue in cheek tell them to go back where they came from. Now that's dirty if you ask me.
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In terms of physical cleanliness I found the Mexicans I assiociated with in Chicago far superior to filthy American Anglos I met there. But then again maybe that was the locality?
You know what Starman? I have been very Right wing, and still consider myself Right wing, but some of my views are changing. And I never thought about what you just wrote. It's a good point. They were forced out of their land and then as if we are Gods we tell them "stay out".
But I do believe that we should secure our borders. Yes we took their land, but we can't pay for what our fathers did. This is the new situation. We have to find out how to deal with it, but yes in a light that will benefit humanity, and not only America. Although, America needs to take care of America FIRST and it has the right to do that.
Please quote me where I said the words "I am a racist"
Just because I dont want them here, does not mean I am racist. It means I care about this country. And if you read, I already stated that they are hard workers. Would I say that if i was racist? No, i'd say to hell with all of them.
You know what Starman? I have been very Right wing, and still consider myself Right wing, but some of my views are changing. And I never thought about what you just wrote. It's a good point. They were forced out of their land and then as if we are Gods we tell them "stay out".
But I do believe that we should secure our borders. Yes we took their land, but we can't pay for what our fathers did. This is the new situation. We have to find out how to deal with it, but yes in a light that will benefit humanity, and not only America. Although, America needs to take care of America FIRST and it has the right to do that.
The past is past. But in terms of decency, or moral cleanliness, their really isn't any basis to gloat. Europeans physically stunk to high heaven because they hardly ever bathed when they first arrived in the Americas. That includes, Spaniards, Englishmen, Germans, and French. In short, they were physically filthy in comparison to native Americans. Morally, well, you know the savagery that the Spaniards and English inflicted on the natives who generally received them in a friendly way. So where the is the moral superiority giving us the right to be namecalling and pointing fingers? As I said, I have associated extensively with Mexican people here in the USA and have NEVER encountered the filthiness this person is repeatedly referring to. I do not doubt that he has. But so have I in relation to Anglos and I don't go tagging all of them based on that.
As for border security, of course every country has a right to secure its borders.
excon I will finish what my wife(Nautical) started. She is not racist but me on the other hand, I am and dont care who knows it. I say build a giant electric fence and shoot any runner that crosses
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