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Jul 31, 2007, 12:17 PM
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| | | Border Fence Raises Environmental Concerns It had to happen... Quote:
The Mexican government is seeking changes to a plan that would expand fences along the United States - Mexico border. It is due to a threat to migratory species accustomed to roaming freely across the frontier. The Environment Department called on Washington to alter the border barriers. The goal is change the border where necessary because the fences could seriously hurt species that cross a 1,900 mile stretch.
Mexico also wants Washington to expand its environmental impact study on the fences. "The eventual construction of this barrier would place at risk the various ecosystems that we share," said Environment Secretary Juan Rafael Elvira. He noted that the border is not just desert, but includes mountains, rivers and wetlands.
A report prepared for the Mexican government by experts and activists from both countries said the fences could isolate border animals into smaller population groups. Thereby affecting their genetic diversity.
Environmentalists add that highly endangered species like the antelope - the Sonoran Pronghorn of which only about 100 still exist - could be wiped out in coming years. They are used to moving across the border in search of scarce grassland.
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Which is worse for this environment, a fence or thousands upon thousands of illegals overrunning the land, letting campfires burn out of control, killing whatever they can find to eat and otherwise trashing the place? | | | | | | |
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Aug 1, 2007, 06:36 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by Starman The past is past. But in terms of decency, or moral cleanliness, their really isn't any basis to gloat. Europeans physically stunk to high heaven because they hardly ever bathed when they first arrived in the Americas. That includes, Spaniards, Englishmen, Germans, and French. In short, they were physically filthy in comparison to native Americans. Morally, well, you know the savagery that the Spaniards and English inflicted on the natives who generally received them in a friendly way. So where the is the moral superiority giving us the right to be namecalling and pointing fingers? As I said, I have associated extensively with Mexican people here in the USA and have NEVER encountered the filthiness this person is repeatedly referring to. I do not doubt that he has. But so have I in relation to Anglos and I don't go tagging all of them based on that.
As for border security, of course every country has a right to secure its borders. |
Yes. So if you analyze our arguments, we agree with eachother. |
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Aug 2, 2007, 09:33 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by Big10 Yes. So if you analyze our arguments, we agree with eachother. |
Well, that depends on the methods whicg you are suggesting be employed to bring order.
Needless to say, we aren't dealing with cattle here, we are dealing with human beings. |
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Aug 2, 2007, 03:49 PM
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| Yes, that's why I said that in the process of protecting America, we must choose methods that benefit (consider) all of humanity (I wrote that in my post). There are many options out there...and America should exaust the list as much as it can before it chooses a quick fix. |
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