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Old Jul 28, 2007, 11:01 AM
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america and mexico

Do you think that the government should either build a fence across the us-mexico border or do something else to stop the flow of illegal immigrants?

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Old Aug 1, 2007, 06:19 PM   #51  
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I didn't invite them. If more want to move to my neighborhood, so be it! We are a very diverse group: on my left is a wonderful Haitian family, very hard working and very polite; across is an imigrated German couple, heavy accent but they haven't offended me! Further up the street is an old man who takes care of his autistic grandson... Across from him is a Swiss widower who makes wooden lawn ornaments and cabinets just for fun. Kinda Norman Rockwell-meets-melting pot. Oh! And my physical therapist is half Mexican and half Chinese. I have NO problem.

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I have no personal knowledge of their "bad" habits. I was responding to a prior post.

But, hey, maybe you should send these stats to them, explaining we already have enough to deal with? I'm not accusing all them of every crime on the street, but at the same time, are you condonning them flooding in? Does shear mass of numbers make it appropriate?

I don't condone breaking international law or local law or any other kind of JUST law.
What I do condemn is misrepresentation of motives and a non American attitude toward those who are less privilaged than we are. Things can be resolved decently. If not, it only serves to create eventual social alienation among those who do become citizens but who bear the deep psychological scars inflicted by those who believed it their right and duty to persecute in order to express their displeasure.

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Old Aug 1, 2007, 06:30 PM   #52  
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Hi Rich-

A close Hispanic friend at my work place was telling me that only a Mexican citizen can own the property. That friend of mine is a legal US resident and from what I understood the reason Mexico came up with the law was because so many US citizens retired and then moved to Mexico. Strange enough you can always build a home in Mexico, but you better do it on a Mexican citizen's friends property that you feel secure about.



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Did you know that Mexico has a law that bans foreign nationals from owning property with in 50 km of their beaches and 100 km fron their borders?

Things that make you go, "HUH?!"

Dang! I do agree with you on that!

Apparently the process is so bogged down (again shear mass of numbers) nothing can be done. I guess we should either fix the problem and expand the program or relent?

And I'm sure some honest, law abiding citizens have been the brunt of scourge for anything other of their nationality have done, and that isn't fair.
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maybe the us should help to make mexico a better place with funding and aid and organisations and stuff, hence eliminating the need for them to leave mexico.
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why we support half thier citizens here in the usa by welfare and food stamps
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maybe the us should help to make mexico a better place with funding and aid and organisations and stuff, hence eliminating the need for them to leave mexico.
Here's something to read:

Foreign Aid - US Embassy Mexico City

Note that the header says, "Foreign Aid from USAID (in millions of dollars)"
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I say quit giving them aid, deport the illegals and close the border
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Otto186 I am not saying that you are considering that Mexicans are on welfare and food stamps because they are simply, Mexican. But, i'm going to make a clarification, because your statement could create this "aura".

Supporting "half their citizens here in the usa by welfare and food stamps" as you have claimed Otto, is (and again I am not accusing you of what I'm going 2 write next) not because of the fact that they are "Mexicans" but is is only because of their situation.
Mexicans are human beings before they're Mexican. Those human beings have a situation. America should first take care of America (it has this right), but while doing this, America should try to make choices that are pro the rest of humanity.

America should secure the borders, but what are all the options? What are all the approaches and ways this can be done in? There are many many many ways to do this. What are they? There is not only one "Right" way to do it. There isn't only one "Left" way to get things done. I think?
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Otto186 I am not saying that you are considering that Mexicans are on welfare and food stamps because they are simply, Mexican. But, i'm going to make a clarification, because your statement could create this "aura".

Supporting "half their citizens here in the usa by welfare and food stamps" as you have claimed Otto, is (and again I am not accusing you of what I'm going 2 write next) not because of the fact that they are "Mexicans" but is is only because of their situation.
Mexicans are human beings before they're Mexican. Those human beings have a situation. America should first take care of America (it has this right), but while doing this, America should try to make choices that are pro the rest of humanity.

America should secure the borders, but what are all the options? What are all the approaches and ways this can be done in? There are many many many ways to do this. What are they? There is not only one "Right" way to do it. There isn't only one "Left" way to get things done. I think?

well they can take there situation back to mexico. there are thousands of americans homeless and dying on the streets but the us goverment seems more interested in helping some people from another country. I say we take care of our own then try to be humanitarians.

next of all I have been were mexicans are in large numbers. I have seen for my self they willl forge 6 diffrent identies and draw checks that mine and you taxes pay for. I am not against the entire mexican race just the one that are here illegaly
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well they can take there situation back to mexico. there are thousands of americans homeless and dying on the streets but the us goverment seems more interested in helping some people from another country. I say we take care of our own then try to be humanitarians.

next of all I have been were mexicans are in large numbers. I have seen for my self they willl forge 6 diffrent identies and draw checks that mine and you taxes pay for. I am not against the entire mexican race just the one that are here illegaly


One thing you'll find is that most people on this board accept that your entitled to a freedom of speech and opinion. I happen to agree with you on the reduction of welfare across the board in the U.S. (everybody). In fact that was one thing your wife and I discussed and agreed fully upon yesterday. Now was your admittance to Excon of being a racist just a tongue-in-cheek comment in a moment of anger? BTW we already deport illegals and are working on fencing the border. The aid to Mexico will always be and if for no other reason than humanitarian, it's diplomatic.



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