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We're complaining about oil consumption in the US. Deport ALL illegals to their respective countries, thereby reducing the load. Anybody who wants to immigrate starts out with military service (screened, of course) or public service of some sort. They will be deployed to help the allied efforts around the US and around the world. We bring our troops home to guard the borders.
If only the U.S. would change and improve its immigration policies, no fence or sharpshooters would be necessary.
Wondergirl agrees: They pick our crops too, don't forget. What white person wants to slave (bent over for hours) out in a hot, dirty field and get all itchy?
You really believe that these people like to get hot dirty and itchy because they are generally darker than Anglos? I suppose the Afros were even happier still getting hot dirty and itchy while working in the hot sun in the cotton fields since they are even darker? Right? Maybe you interpret blacks singing while they worked as a sign of happiness? After all, what white person could possibly think of singing under those horrendous conditions? No?
Find me a white teenager who willingly goes out into the fields to pick crops. If you find one, he is probably the farmer's child and he/she probably isn't real happy about it. Teens don't even want to work at fast-food restaurants any more -- not high enough pay for one thing.
I'm saying more power to those not white who are willing to get hot, dirty, and itchy to harvest white people's crops for nothing pay. Why aren't whites out there in the field too?
Find me a white teenager who willingly goes out into the fields to pick crops. If you find one, he is probably the farmer's child and he/she probably isn't real happy about it. Teens don't even want to work at fast-food restaurants any more -- not high enough pay for one thing.
I'm saying more power to those not white who are willing to get hot, dirty, and itchy to harvest white people's crops for nothing pay. Why aren't whites out there in the field too?
They are! Have you seen the central valley of California? Yes, there are migrant workers working there, obviously. But there are white people doing it too. There are plenty of them that arent farmers kids that do it because they want a job and the extra money.
The white teens nowadays arent as bad as you claim them to be, at least not where i'm from.
**EDIT** I would also like to add that its not always nothing pay. There are some migrant workers that make more than some people that work behind a desk. And, I did the job, because I wanted to. I am not a farmer's child.
Wondergirl agrees: Wow! The Midwest is entirely different.
Where I am from, farming is like our culture. Everyone gets in on it. I will agree though, that the majority of the workers are migrant workers, but there are tons of white people that do it too.
But just because where you are from it is mostly, or all, migrant workers that do your farming, that does not make you racist. I dont see where that came from anyways.
Where I am from, farming is like our culture. Everyone gets in on it. I will agree though, that the majority of the workers are migrant workers, but there are tons of white people that do it too.
But just because where you are from it is mostly, or all, migrant workers that do your farming, that does not make you racist. I dont see where that came from anyways.
That's because you are creating your own argument, tagging it as mine and then saying that it doesn't make sense. In any case, denial is expected since most people in the USA do their thing almost as if it were second nature and if the anyone points it out they say it wasn't really meant that way. Actually, the whole casually-inflict-and vehement-denial scenario is an almost instinctive American cultural thing. Whether Europeans or other Anglos elsewhere are in the same habit I don't know. But here in the good ole USA it's a pervasive accepted practice.
That's because you are creating your own argument, tagging it as mine and then saying that it doesn't make sense.
If there are white people where she lives that wont do the job, and the migrant workers will, the fact that she's saying so does not make her racist. You went off on this whole "African Amercans picking cotton" thing, when it has no relevance. They were FORCED to pick cotton (besides the fact that that was a long time ago, and hasnt been applied for a while), the Mexicans CHOOSE to work in the fields. Nobody forces them to do anything.
My comment, "They pick our crops too, don't forget. What white person wants to slave (bent over for hours) out in a hot, dirty field and get all itchy?" was not derogatory toward people of color but toward white people who won't dirty their hands and do what used to be called common labor. Btw, I'm the descendant of Idaho and Illinois farmers, and a thousand years ago spent my teen summers picking fruit in the orchards of western NY State.
I saw today on the news that Mexico plans to sue the US in international court to stop the fences. That's ironic. They don't care to keep their own citizens home.
For all we have to say about national sanctity and sovereignty, they apparently lack that same pride, to make the same efforts at home. What are they running from? Is Mexico such a bad place that they just can't stand it? Why can't they remain and turn things around there?
I saw today on the news that Mexico plans to sue the US in international court to stop the fences. That's ironic. They don't care to keep their own citizens home.
For all we have to say about national sanctity and sovereignty, they apparently lack that same pride, to make the same efforts at home. What are they running from? Is Mexico such a bad place that they just can't stand it? Why can't they remain and turn things around there?
They are running from poverty. I have been to Mexico, and yes it is a bad place. I dont even live there, and I couldnt stand it. Its nasty and disgusting, but the funny thing is, THEY made it that way. While I was there, I saw a grown adult pull down his pants and take a crap in the gutter, that is just plain gross. I think that they feel it is too far gone, and turning things around would take too much effort, so they just migrate over here. Besides the fact that while they're here, they have it easy. They can work (plenty of people will hire illegal immigrants), not have to pay taxes, and live somewhere clean (at least more clean than Mexico). Not to mention all they have to do is have a baby, and they qualify for welfare.
I am not racist, by any means, but I feel that it is a bunch of crap that the working people's tax dollars are supporting them. And I also do not want the United States to start looking like Mexico (some parts already do). I feel that if they dont like it in Mexico, they should have thought about that before they trashed it.
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