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FRIGHTENING video catching Hillary Clinton's elections fraud?
Should Hillary be sent to jail for this? Should she be held accountable for lying to the American people, and for election fraud? How did Hillary get away with this?
This is frightening.
I can't watch Youtube but based on some digging I found out that the video is about the 2000 fundraiser that Peter Paul held for Evita . As I recall the money got pocketed .
Once she is the nominee alot of the unresolved crap from the end of the Clintoon reign will resurface ;especially Hillary's connection to the pardons that President Clintoon dished out for a fee.
I for one can't wait for the New Square controversy to reopen .
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When Hillary Clinton decided to run for the New York Senate, she knew needed to reach a vast array of voters, in order to win the Senate. What better way for her to get votes, than to use her husband's power of pardoning or commute prison sentences.
At the time, Clinton's campaign was desperately trying to boost stagnant support for her among the state's key Jewish voters. Her opponent, former Long Island Republican Rep. Rick Lazio, seemed to be gaining momentum.
She knew that New York's Orthodox and chasidic communities would be a hard sell, as they were expressing their personal dislike for her and her positions, particularly regarding Israel. She needed to show she could win some support in Orthodox circles.
In August of 2000, Hillary Clinton campaigned in a small town north of New York City, called New Square, a Chasidic Jewish village of 7,000 residents in Rockland County New York. (Which formerly voted overwhelmingly for arch-conservative Sen. Alfonse D'Amato).New Square was coping with a series of scandals in which top village officials were going to jail or fleeing the country for swindling tens of millions of dollars in federal education, housing and small-business subsidies in a decade-long scam.
One widely publicized case included laundering money through a phony yeshiva set up in Brooklyn.
Rabbi Twersky desperately wanted to win clemency for the four noted New Square residents who on Jan. 25, 1999 were convicted of 21 charges including conspiracy, embezzlement, and wire and mail fraud. Kalmen Stern, 42, was sentenced to 78 months; David Goldstein, 54, of Brooklyn, 70 months; Jacob Elbaum 40, 57 months; and Benjamin Berger, 30 months. They were ordered to pay back millions of dollars. [Of course, they stole TENS of millions]
She met with Rabbi David Twersky, and afterwards, New Square officials began campaigning for Clinton, even outside the village, though Clinton's positions on such core issues as school vouchers, abortion and Israel were in opposition to New Square.
Community members drove around in cars with loudspeakers urging -- in Yiddish -- Rockland County Orthodox residents to vote for her. A Yiddish weekly endorsed her based on lobbying from New Square.
"It's not a secret their support was based on the hope that she would look, kindly towards the people that are incarcerated," said Rabbi Ronnie Greenwald, a prominent Orthodox leader who lives in nearby Monsey. "They really went out and helped her. It was an honest attempt to get votes and get support for Hillary Clinton."
On Election Day, Clinton carried New Square, 1,400 to 12. It was a glaring exception to much of the Orthodox world and New Square's chasidic neighbors, who voted overwhelmingly for Lazio.
Several weeks after her senate victory, she met with Rabbi David Twersky again, attending a meeting in the White House with President Clinton.
During a scheduled 15-minute meeting on Dec. 22 that stretched into 45 minutes, according to New Square officials, Rabbi Twersky raised the issue of seeking mercy for the New Square four and help for fugitive Chaim Berger in Israel.
Rabbi Twersky has never publicly commented about the sins of his community members, and repeatedly turned down interviews to explain the scandal.
That visit launched a series of events that culminated in a controversial last-minute clemency action on behalf of New Square by outgoing President Clinton.
The decision by President Clinton to commute the sentences of four prominent New Square men who stole tens of millions from the federal government in a phony yeshiva scheme enraged law enforcement officials.
This is but one of a series of unresolved questions about Hillary and the Clintonoids . She will be quick to call this stuff old news but I suspect she doesn't have the teflon of hubby ;and we are already on to the extent that staffers like Sandy Berger will go to protect the empress.
As a Jew, I have to say that I find the entire event to be disgusting. And I am personally NOT looking forward to this being rehashed an the national level.
Nevertheless, assuming that Hillary does get the Dem nomination (and I don't doubt that she will) it is inevitable (in-evita-ble?) that this scandal and many others will be brought up again. Personally, I'm looking forward to hear her explanation of the death of Vince Foster, who apparently committed "suicide" in a park (where his brains, blood, and parts of his skull were found) with a gunshot to the head (or was it multiple gunshots... I forget), and then somehow walked back to his office, (where the rest of his body was found). As an EMT, I have never seen a dead person walk back to the office after committing suicide. But what do I know?
But the New Square incident is PERSONALLY shameful to me as an Orthodox Jew.
Elliot ,
I understand how you feel . I have had my dealings with the community at New Square . On another Q I mentioned how I admire the effectiveness of their block voting even as I find myself often at odds with them when their interests and mine clash.
But that is just one of many examples I could've mentioned .Vince Foster is good . Webster Hubble and the Rose Law Firm records should also be on the table again ......or the Marc Rich pardon and the Rich donation to the Clinton library is another . ....and now all the former scandals about Chinese donations is pertinent again.
The worse part of the Peter Paul thing is that somehow Stan Lee got stung by it.
According to Jewish Law, any person born of a Jewish mother is a Jew regardless of any personal actions he may take or level of observance of Jewish law (or secular law). It would be nice to think that the guys who did that stuff aren't Jewish because of their actions, but that's not how Judaism works.
Worse, it's not how history has worked. How many non-affiliated Jews or downright rotten Jews have been associated with the Jewish people as a whole. The actions of individuals have been blamed on the entire people. Think about how many Frenchmen ended up hating "Jews" because of the perceived actions of a single man, Dreyfus. And Dreyfus wasn't even guilty of anything, he was framed. Think of how whole communities of Jews have been wiped out because of the perceived actions of a few in the blood libels and progroms throughout history. And again, in those cases, the Jews in question weren't even guilty of anything.
How much worse can it be in a case where the Jews in question are undeniably guilty of the actions of which they are accused. How much more hatred of Jews will be generated?
THAT is why I am embarrassed by these criminals in New Square. Regardless of the affiliation of these perpetrators (and they are Satmar Chassiddim, or what many refer to as "ultra-Orthodox" zealots) their actions reflect on all Jews. History has proven that.
Should Hillary be sent to jail for this? Should she be held accountable for lying to the American people, and for election fraud? How did Hillary get away with this?
This is frightening.
Use some critical thought and then tell me what's set in stone. Also, we already know you are a radical...so maybe we differ in ideology there. I don't believe those men are Jewissh - they're not men of God.
Ok this is not an issue of opinion anymore. This part is an issue of fact. I'm a jew, but I'm not a "man of god". There are plenty of so called "men of god" in various religions who bring shame upon their religion.
In Judiasm, there really is no such thing as a "man of god". A rabbi is teacher nothing more, while he may be looked at as the spirtual leader of his community that's up to the community.
Being Jewish is a function of your parentage and how you choose to live. Were these people good jews? Maybe not, but that doesn't make them any less jewish.
You showed up here recently and all you seem to be doing is promoting Ron Paul and tearing down Hillary Clinton. Its clear where your loyalties and and where your biases are. I'm sure everyone sees that.
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