 | | | Abstinence Only Sex Education
Asked Dec 24, 2007, 05:03 AM
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84 Answers Hello:
Today, my state turned down $800,000 of federal money to fund Bush's abstinence only sex education program. My state wanted to add medically correct information to the presentations, but the feds wouldn't agree.
Are the people in my state served better with abstinence only sex education, or are we better off without it?
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Dec 24, 2007, 05:22 AM
| | | I have never heard of such a hair brained scheme. Are you kidding ? I can see it being helpful if it was medically based, but to promote abstinence is ludricous. Sex is a big part of of a person's existence. Altough it isn't actually mentioned in Maslow's theory, its there non the less as part of a need to make a person whole and complete.
To answer your question, they are better off without abstinence only sex education. | | |  | Ultra Member | |
Dec 24, 2007, 06:06 AM
| | | Considering the program contains basic biological errors (things we don't debate about, like the number of chromosomes), they are better off without it. Let's not forget the twisting of facts and rephrasing of "information" the program also uses to scare kids.
You can read more here: http://oversight.house.gov/Documents...2153-50247.pdf
They're MUCH better off without it. | | |  | Ultra Member | |
Dec 24, 2007, 07:13 AM
| | | Ex,
Here's a little publicized fact, Bill Clinton in one of the things he actually deserves some credit for - the guy who wanted to "end welfare as we know it," who in 1993 "made a series of remarkable public statements about the links between social problems, welfare dependency and unwed childbearing" - signed the legislation in 1996 that began providing federal funds for exclusive abstinence based education. Yeah it was a GOP congress, but he still signed the bill.
Here's another fact, the money your state turned down was matching funds specifically for abstinence education, if they can't follow the rules for the match they don't get the funds. States can still teach what they want, they just don't get those matching federal funds. Here's a little perspective, the proposed budget for the school district in our little town of 175,000 is $212.5 million this school year. I'm sure $800,000 is a drop in the bucket for your state if they want to fund their brand of sex-ed.
More facts, the Democratic controlled congress overwhelmingly passed a $27.8 million increase in abstinence education funds in the $310.9 million appropriation for Title X family planning funding. That's $5,933,372,000 of taxpayer money in 36 years of funding "medically accurate sex-ed" and "reproductive health care."
I guess all taxpayer money should fund Planned Parenthood's vision of sex-ed, eh? | | |  | Ultra Member | |
Dec 24, 2007, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx They all suck. Ron Paul for pres. | Well, Bush did ok an increase in Title X funding so we have reason to whine, too. | | |  | Über Member | |
Dec 24, 2007, 08:36 AM
| | | What "medically correct" information did your state want to include? I'd think that turning down almost $1 million of federal grant money would be hard to justify under any circumstances. | | |  | Senior Member | |
Dec 24, 2007, 09:17 AM
| | | excon,
1) Define medically correct information.
2) Why is it that the Orthodox Jewish community has no problem with teen pregnancy or STDs? Could it have something to do with their abstinence-only education? And if it works for us, why wouldn't it work for anyone else? The fact is that it hasn't been tried since the 60s, when "free love" became the norm. But if we went back to that standard from the 1950s and earlier, STDs and teen preganancy would decrease significantly.
I don't think the people in your state are better served through sex-ed as it stands today. But let me know if the system you have in place decreases teen-preganancies and occurance of STDs to pre-1960 levels. If it does, I'll be happy to endorse it.
Elliot | | |  | Ultra Member | |
Dec 24, 2007, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ETWolverine excon,
1) Define medically correct information.
2) Why is it that the Orthodox Jewish community has no problem with teen pregnancy or STDs? Could it have something to do with their abstinence-only education? And if it works for us, why wouldn't it work for anyone else? The fact is that it hasn't been tried since the 60s, when "free love" became the norm. But if we went back to that standard from the 1950s and earlier, STDs and teen preganancy would decrease significantly.
I don't think the people in your state are better served through sex-ed as it stands today. But let me know if the system you have in place decreases teen-preganancies and occurance of STDs to pre-1960 levels. If it does, I'll be happy to endorse it.
Elliot | I couldn't give you a greenie,but I do agree with you...abstinence solves more problems wherever it is practised. | | |  | Ultra Member | |
Dec 24, 2007, 10:49 AM
| | | It may work for some, such small groups as orthodox jews, but in a nationwide setting, I don't believe that abstinence only sex ed will work.
I grew up in a strict christian family, went to a private christian school, and lived in a relatively christian neighborhood, that taught "wait until you're married"...but most kids had sex by the time they were 20. Granted, they were smart about it, they used condoms, no pregnancies, no stds (that I knew of)...but I just don't think an abstinence only sex ed would work on a grand scale. | | |  | Jobs & Parenting Expert | |
Dec 24, 2007, 11:04 AM
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There IS a way to make abstinence-only work.
Pay each person $$ for every month he/she refrains from sex of any kind. This will help the economy and will fund college for many students. Of course, there will have to be a monitoring system put into place, but in this day and age that should be easy. Where will the money come from? Hmmmmm.... | | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | Add your answer here.
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