9/11 " fatigue"

Oh lady you are a piece of work. You so want to believe this garbage its ludicrous.

I didn't say terrorists couldn't have planted explosives, I said NO one could have planted explosives! You have no clue about the interior structure of the building, I do. There is no way, especially after the '93 bombing, that packages of explosives could have sat undetected for the lenght of time you are talkiing about. The interior on most floors were set to be very flexible, so cubicles were constantly being moved around. You claim there is no way the planes could have caused the collapse, I tell you there is no way explosives could have been placed as you claim. Not a chance!

I don't care what this colonel says. If he claims there were no hijackers on Flight 93 and that all the passengers were unconcscious that is totally refuted by the phone calls made to relatives from the plane. That alone eliminates his credibility.

Sorry lady, but everything you've claim I've been able to refute. What you have is a few nutcases who've come up with some plausable conspiracies that don't survive the light of truth but which have appealed to your paranoia so you buy into it.

Again, go peddle your papers somewhere else. Because I've had enough of your garbage.

I'm just going to relax through all the conspiracy stuff. In time, one story will be accepted.

ScottGem:

Whether you know it or not, demolition was placed. Demolition placement doesn't require a lot of space. You need to be more learned about demolition before you make such ignorant statements.

No, you BELIEVE demolition charges were placed due to some paranoid fantasy. You have no clue what I know about demolition. It doesn't matter how small a charge might have been placed. I KNOW how the floors in that building were set up. I know there is no way that such charges could have sat undetected for any length of time. What do you know of demolition besides the ravings of paranoid conspiracy theorists?

What I stated was stated not from ignorance but from first hand knowledge of the management and security of the buildings. The only ignorance I see here is yours.

You made a statement earlier that the media is controlled by the "Right Wing extreme". I'm sure that comes as a surprise to the jewish liberals usually cited by conspiracy theorists. I'm also sure that Bush wishes the media was so controlled. If it were true, then why wasn't Cheney's hunting "accident" totally surpressed? It defies logic to think that if what your sites say is true that it wouldn't have become more mainstream. I've looked through some of the sites you linked and see nothing but garbage. I'm sure, if I searched, I could come up with sites that debunk this garbage. But I'm not going to waste my time. There are a number of facts that I know to be true by experience and first hand knowledge that debunk this garbage.

Thanks for that info. I'll call my friend who was sitting on 395 and saw a plane through his driver's side window plow into the pentagon... It's amazing how they make those cruise missile thingys look so much like real planes....

/Stop feeding the troll, people.

I heard similar theories concerning the Oklahoma City federal building bombing. What are the sources for such claims? While I do acknowledge that our government has shown ignorance on occasions, I have read nothing yet that would lead me to believe that the government initiated or deliberately murdered it's own people. Understand that I didn't vote for George Bush in 2000 or 2004. Aside from other issues, most of my criticism of the man has to do with his plans post 9/11 and how the current administration is carrying out the Iraqi war campaign.



Bobby

Jillianleab:

What do you mean troll? This isn't a PARTISAN BLOG, is it? I understood this to be a discussion blog for politics.

OK, your friend saw an airplane hit the Pentagon, where is this airplane, that isn't a drone or a missal, so people can go see it and take pictures? Why are there no pictures? This was a big happening and there should have been lots of pictures and movies before it was cleaned up, surely there were, but where are they and why can't we see them? It is illogical that pictures wouldn't have been taken of an airplane crash into the Pentagon. You are correct though, drones for sure look like airplanes and I understand some missals do as well.

There is plenty of footage of the two planes slamming into the towers. So you would have us believe that these alleged conspirators flew two planes into the towers, but used some drone to attack the Pentagon? And what happened to AA Flight 77 if it didn't crash into the Pentagon?

You talk about illogic when there is so much illogical and just plain wrong about your off the wall theories.

Yes, and people like this, are just plain criminal, they do a disservice to the people who was on the planes, who died, they show no respect to the family of the people on the planes who lost their love ones,

They do injustice to the tears of the family members who may have heard their love one for the last time on a cell phone from that plane.
I can not believe someone can hate one political group or political person so much they will believe these lies and live in a world of fanticy that they actually believe these things.
And yes political forums and sane thoughts are always welcome, but this belongs with the elvis sightings and the big foot beleivers.

I was part ( very small part) of helping with questioning of some of the people invovled with the flight school and also some other people who had ties to some of the terrorist that highjacked the plane. So I know it was planes, and only those people who want to hate so bad they will accept lies because they don't want to believe the truth

BABRAM:

1st of all, knowledge of welding and the temperatures it takes to melt steel. Forget the stuff about conspiracy theories, I want publicly controlled experiments with jet fuel in a torch so that I can see that jet fuel will melt steel. An experiment for actual fact doesn't seem to me to be outrageous. So, lets just do an experiment with jet fuel in a torch and see if we can melt steel and the controversy will be over. Why is that so hard? NASA found that steel was melted, which it appears to me is why the WORLD TRADE CENTER BUILDINGS came down.