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Sep 4, 2008, 05:27 AM
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hello i need help really bad!!! we have had water problems for a couple of week's.it first started when i went to give my grandson a bath and the water started spitting and sputtering and it was black and rusty looking and lost pressure.i turned off water until pump stopped running and turned water faucet back on and then it was fine.we replaced the pump but i think the pressure tank is bad.it is a Well Saver pressure tank it is factory preset at 38psi.we let all of the air out of it and drained the water lines and then added air back into tank and turned on the pump but when pump kicked off then the pressure in tank read 50 psi.could we have a ruptured bladder? i am at my wits end.tired of boiling water to do dishes and going to my dad's to take shower.someone said are well is going dry we have a shallow well and can't find the well.we have lived here 4 years and every year we replace the pump.please please help!!
thank you,rhonda
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Sep 4, 2008, 05:34 AM
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i think the pressure tank is bad.it is a Well Saver pressure tank it is factory preset at 38psi.we let all of the air out of it and drained the water lines and then added air back into tank and turned on the pump but when pump kicked off the the pressure in tank read 50 psi.could we have a ruptured bladder?
| The correct setting for a bladder tank is 2 PSI under vthe cut in point of the control box. This is set when the pump's shut off and the system's bled down.
Now let's check that bladder tank for a rupturede membrane. There are several ways to test a bladder pressure tank. (1) Open the snifter valve on top of the tank. If water comes out tank's faulty, **OR** (2) Take a metal object and start at the bottom of the tank and start tapping. You should hear a "clunk" until you get about half way up the tank. Then you should hear a "clank".
If you hear the same noise all the way up the tank then it's faulty.
In both cases if it fails (1) and(2) the tank must be replaced. Good luck, Tom |
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Sep 4, 2008, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by speedball1 The correct setting for a bladder tank is 2 PSI under vthe cut in point of the control box. This is set when the pump's shut off and the system's bled down.
Now let's check that bladder tank for a rupturede membrane. There are several ways to test a bladder pressure tank. (1) Open the snifter valve on top of the tank. If water comes out tank's faulty, **OR** (2) Take a metal object and start at the bottom of the tank and start tapping. You should hear a "clunk" until you get about half way up the tank. Then you should hear a "clank".
If you hear the same noise all the way up the tank then it's faulty.
In both cases if it fails (1) and(2) the tank must be replaced. Good luck, Tom |
what is a snifter vavle? do i have to drain the pressure tank to do this test? also a couple of day's ago it was waterlogged and we drained it and now when water goes into it it does like a gurgling sound. | |
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Sep 4, 2008, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cook322000 what is a snifter vavle? do i have to drain the pressure tank to do this test? also a couple of day's ago it was waterlogged and we drained it and now when water goes into it it does like a gurgling sound. | A snifter valve is the thingy on top of your tan k that looks like it belongs on your tire and to test your bladder tank you do it with the pressure on. Let me repeat the instructions , Quote:
There are several ways to test a bladder pressure tank. (1) Open the snifter valve on top of the tank. If water comes out tank's faulty, **OR** (2) Take a metal object and start at the bottom of the tank and start tapping. You should hear a "clunk" until you get about half way up the tank. Then you should hear a "clank".
If you hear the same noise all the way up the tank then it's faulty.
In both cases if it fails (1) and(2) the tank must be replaced.
| Good luck, Tom | |
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Sep 5, 2008, 09:09 AM
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| now are pump is not pumping any water.we have a shallow well and we haven't had any rain for a couple of months.could are well be dry?we were getting water the other day but someone told us it could be the footvalve in the well.we can't seem to find are well being that it was put in a long time ago and the health department has no record's of it.i have called the previous owner's and called other places to find out but no one seems to be able to help us.i think it is across the road but my husband doesn't think it would be.also there is 4 houses where we live that share a well.everyone else around us has water.how can we find are well? | |
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Sep 5, 2008, 11:05 AM
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Pay to call speedball1 for advice ($.95/min) | Perhaps your well isn't as deep as the four houses that share one and the water table in yours just dropped. Or itr it could be the foot valve's clogged. Does your pump hold prime when you prime it? You have attempted to prime it haven't you? Back to you, Tom | |
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Sep 5, 2008, 11:46 AM
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| yes we have primed it and it is holding water. it is a new water ace jet pump. how far is a well supposed to be from your house and septic tank? | |
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Sep 5, 2008, 12:43 PM
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how far is a well supposed to be from your house and septic tank?
| Here's what I pulled outta the web. Not much help I'm afraid. Regards, Tom | |
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Sep 5, 2008, 05:28 PM
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| Cook, you can be pretty sure that the 4 houses sharing a well are using a submersibe pump, probably MUCH farther down than your well. You can't really compare the two. | |
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Sep 8, 2008, 09:57 AM
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| well i have done some research and found out that are well maybe under are house.the people that lived here back in 1989 put on a new addition and built over it.i found out the 3 houses that was sharing a well and they are nowhere around are house.we worked on the water saturday we went and bought a new pressure tank and my husband hooked it all up and we have had water but this afternoon when i was doing dishes the pump kept running and the needle on the gage was reading 30 psi and jumping fast so now we have no water again until my husband gets home from work to look at it.could it be the footvalve in the well?brand new pump and pressure tank what else could be wrong? we also only used water for what we needed it for shower's, dishes.i took laundry to laundry mat.i am really aggravated!! | |
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