the toilet works,tank fills and it flushes,but the bowl gets no water?what is up with this?

bracebeagler22

i ran a little snake thru the bowl assembly but still have same prob.no great flush action and bowl still not filling after flush.

speedball1

If the vent's open and the bowl's not clogged then that leaves only one other thing. Back pressure from a partial clog in the toilet drain line. you flush and the discharge hits a partial clog that impedes the flow sending back pressure back up the line which prevents a complete flush.

To remidy this the toilet will have to come up and a regular sewer machine, (not a small snake) run down the toilets drain. This is about all that's left. We've checked everything else out. While you can do this, pulling a toilet and snaking out its drain line can be a messy job best left to a experienced plumber. I know of nothing else to try. Good luck, Tom

bracebeagler22

ok but why is the bowl not filling after each flush?and when it does it slowly drains out?

speedball1

"why is the bowl not filling after each flush?and when it does it slowly drains out"

There could also be a factory defect in the bowl. Sometimes in casting the bowl there is a small bubble in the china. Instead of junking the bowl the manufacture will put a porcelain patch over the hole and send it on through. On occasion the patch will fail allowing the water to seep out of the bowl. If that's the case you would have a full bowl after you flushed and the bowl filled but some time later you would notice a drop in the bowl level. The only other thing might be if you dropped something in the bowl and cracked it. If you're worried about where the water's going, in both cases it drains back down into the sewer and not under the bowl on the floor.
Regards, Tom

Plmberman

I have an idea why this happens. Most toilets have a fill valve that has a water outlet on the bottom (to fill the tank) and a hose that extends to the flapper halve (the thing that allows water to enter the toilet bowl). If your hole that shoots out water at the bottom of the toilet (a syphon jet) is clogged then the water will usually just swirl around or go down at the last second. if it is clear, it will make the water go down so much quicker, but with that being said, your bowl needs refilled which requires the hose from the fill valve to be connected to the flapper valve. If neither doesn't work, then you have another problem. Ask me any question, I know exactly how a toilet works. Another thing, if the water does drain out, it could either be a crack or the pressure might be dropping which would make the water go up and down with out flushing.

speedball1

Let me clear up a few of pimbermans terms and explanations. First off, what he calls a "flapper valve" is correctly termed a "flush valve". Next, what he calls a "fill valve" is correctly called a "ballcock". The "hose" from "fill valve" to the "flapper valve" is not realy a "hose" and it doesn't connect to the flush valve. It's a small 1/8" tube running from the ballcock to the upright white "fill tube" and was addressed in earlier posts.


Sorry pimberman, but if you're gonna talk like a plumber, ya gotta learn the language.
Cheers, Tom