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Old Mar 21, 2007, 05:46 AM
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Symmons - Temptrol Diverter

I have the above diverter in my bathroom. Recently it started to leak from the diverter handle that changes the use from tub to shower. I purchased the Symmons TA-25A Iverter Spindle to replace old. My problem is that I do not know how to remove the old spindle. Can anyone help me with my problem?

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Old Mar 21, 2007, 06:48 AM   #2  
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Try this site for direction on fixing your issue. Symmons - FAQ

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DDYER disagrees: The Symmons FAQ does not address removing the TA-23 or TA-25 cartridge; only removal of the volume spindle TA-10.
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Old Jul 2, 2008, 04:25 PM   #3  
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So let me get this straight DDYER, you have done one post in your life and it was to give me an inaccurate rating for telling the poster to try the manufacturers FAQ site. How's that work?? By the way, you must not read much of the site because several inches down ith talks about leaking shower spouts and to click here to get instruction to remove the T23. Thank s fo you huge contribution to helping folks. Do you have anything to tell mpicid? http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/plumbin...32700-new.html
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Old Jul 2, 2008, 06:03 PM   #4  
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It isn't your fault. Symmons FAQ doesn't link to a TA-25A removal instruction. All links point to the same instructions...removal of the spindle, repair, and seat removal. Try it. I wrote to Symmons today to point this out.

Link = "How do I replace a Temptrol spindle, washers and/or seats?"

If however there is information specifically for the T-23A diverter, I would be happy to be so directed. It seems a T55C tool is needed to service the diverter. The cause of the leaking is most likely an o-ring, T-24, inside.

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I have the above diverter in my bathroom. Recently it started to leak from the diverter handle that changes the use from tub to shower. I purchased the Symmons TA-25A Iverter Spindle to replace old. My problem is that I do not know how to remove the old spindle. Can anyone help me with my problem?
From the diagram on the Symmons PDF it looks like a T55C tool is needed. One site, https://www.hatcreekoutfit.com/xcart...me.php?cat=462 sells a kit of tools. I would imagine directions come with them. You could always send a comment to Symmons as well. They've been kind enough to send me simple parts.
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Hello all:

Hey DDYER...

I am assuming your intentions are good here. So please bear with me for a minute or so...ok??

So we are clear...Ballenger's post brought me to the same post that you looked at to investigate the TA-25A and draw the conclusion that mpicid may need the T55c tool...right (although you had to type in S-96-2 or something similar to get a schematic...maybe? ).

In fact, the T55c tool is a stop plaster shield removal tool...nothing to do with spindle removal at all. If you review the parts list you can confirm this.

Click on this link from Ballenger's link to confirm:

http://www.symmons.com/~/media/Files...ptrol_ins.ashx

Review page #5 of 6.

Here, what mpicid needs is a EZSYM - Symmons E-Z 4-N-1 Wrench as provided at your link. This tool will remove the DIVERTER RETAINER and the DIVERTER SPINDLE (I usually use a 1/4" allen wrench to remove the retainer and a 1/4" lag bolt to remove the spindle...).

Then grease up the o-rings on the new one and install that. Need to push hard to set it, too..then can install the brass ring that comes with the TA-25A kit (looks like main section of valve picture at the link above, page #5).

Anyway, that's how it is....mpicid!! Let us know if you need more information. Be clear that a few more plumbers may come in with other ideas...I look forward to them!

Have a good night all.

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Thanks Mark. You're spot on. I just got an email from Symmons this morning with similar instructions, including using a 5/16 allen and 5/16 screw as tools.

Any type of grease recommended for best results?

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Any plumber's grease will work...silicone grease is best!

Thank you for updating the numbers on the allen wrenches....I had a feeling I was off on the 1/4". I just changed it at my post above this one.

Good luck...and for what it's worth please note that Ballenger has 100s of hours posting to people on this site FREE OF CHARGE and that he is one of the most seriously dedicated people here. He was only trying to help...and in some way...he did..didn't he??

Don't be afraid to pop back anytime and share some information that you feel qualified to share with others here... That is what makes this place so cool!!

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Ten bucks for a TA-25A - a couple of bucks for some grease- a little elbow grease of my own- and a longtime problem has gone away. Now if anyone is in the DC area and needs a couple of TA-10 spindles that are new (sent by Symmons) and a chrome diverter handle as well, contact me. I have no use for them. Thanks again massplumber and ballengerb1. I hope mpicid got the allen wrench and did the same. It was easy.
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Glad you're all set DDYER ...Thanks for the update!!

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