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    Nov 24, 2010, 01:42 PM
    I've used Septic Savior for about 13 years now. It's 16 years old and so far has never had to be pumped out. Don't know if it's the Septic Savior but I'm taking no chances.
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    Nov 24, 2010, 01:47 PM
    I've been using Septic Savior for about 13 years now. The system is nearly 17 years old now and has never had to be pumped out. Don't know if it's the Septic Savior, but I'm taking no chances. Actually, I don't know how often septic tanks usually need pumping out so maybe it's just not time yet. Jackie
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    #23

    Nov 25, 2010, 07:03 AM

    Hey Jackiepa,
    My opinion is that you've been wasting your money all these years and here's why.
    Let me give you a few pointers. Since the septic tank is such an essential part of a sewage system, here are some points to remember about the "care and feeding" of that part of the onsite sewage treatment system.
    A "starter" is not needed for bacterial action to begin in a septic tank. Many bacteria are present in the materials deposited into the tank and will thrive under the growth conditions present.
    If you feel that an additive is needed, be aware that some may do great harm. Additives that advertise to "eliminate" tank cleaning may cause the sludge layer to fluff up and be washed out into the drainfield, plugging soil pores. Some additives, particularly degreasers, may contain carcinogens (cancer-causing) or suspected carcinogens that will flow into the ground water along with the water from the soil treatment unit.

    Send all sewage into the septic tank. Don't run laundry wastes directly into the drainfield, since soap or detergent scum will plug the soil pores, causing failure.
    Normal amounts of household detergents, bleaches, drain cleaners, and other household chemicals can be used and won't stop the bacterial action in the septic tank. But don't use excessive amounts of any household chemicals. Do not dump cleaning water for latex paint brushes and cans into the house sewer.
    Don't deposit coffee grounds, cooking fats, wet-strength towels, disposable diapers, facial tissues, cigarette butts, and other non-decomposable materials into the house sewer. These materials won't decompose and will fill the septic tank and plug the system. To use a 5-gallon toilet flush to get rid of a cigarette butt is also very wasteful of water. Keep an ash tray in the bathroom, if necessary.
    Avoid dumping grease down the drain. It may plug sewer pipes or build up in the septic tank and plug the inlet. Keep a separate container for waste grease and throw it out with the garbage.
    If you must use a garbage disposal, you will likely need to remove septic tank solids every year or more often. Ground garbage will likely find its way out of the septic tank and plug up the drainfield. It is better to compost, incinerate, or deposit the materials in the garbage that will be hauled away. As one ad says, "You can pay me now, or pay me later."
    Clean your septic tank every 1 to 3 years. How often depends on the size of the tank and how many solids go into it. A rule of thumb is once every 3 years for a 1,000 gallon tank serving a 3-bedroom home with 4 occupants (and with no garbage disposal).
    Using too much soap or detergent can cause problems with the septic system. It is difficult to estimate how dirty a load of laundry is, and most people use far more cleaning power than is needed. If there are lots of suds in your laundry tub when the washer discharges, cut back on the amount of detergent for the next similar load. It's generally best not to use inexpensive detergents which may contain excessive amounts of filler or carrier. Some of these fillers are montmorillonite clay, which- is used to seal soils! The best solution may be to use a liquid laundry detergent, since they are less likely to have carriers or fillers that may harm the septic system.
    Each septic system has a certain capacity. When this capacity is reached or exceeded, there will likely be problems because the system won't take as much sewage as you want to discharge into it. When the onsite sewage treatment system reaches its daily capacity, be conservative with your use of water. Each gallon of water that flows into the drain must go through the septic tank and into the soil absorption unit. Following are some ways to conserve water that should cause little hardship in anyone's standard of living:
    Be sure that there are no leaking faucets or other plumbing fixtures. Routinely check the float valve on all toilets to be sure it isn't sticking and the water isn't running continuously. It doesn't take long for the water from a leaking toilet or a faucet to add up. A cup of water leaking out of a toilet every minute doesn't seem like much but that's 90 gallons a day! So be sure that there is no water flowing into the sewer when all water-using appliances are supposed to be off.
    The most effective way to reduce the sewage flow from a house is to reduce the toilet wastes, which usually account for about 40 percent of the sewage flow. Many toilets use 5 to 6 gallons per flush. Some of the so-called low water use toilets are advertised to use only 3.5 gallons per flush. Usually the design of the bowl hasn't been changed, however, and often two flushes are needed to remove all solids. That's 7 gallons! Toilets are available which have been redesigned and will do a good job with one gallon or less per flush. Using a 1-gallon toilet rather than a 5 gallon toilet will reduce sewage flows from a home by about a third. This reduction may be more than enough to make the sewage system function again. While prices may vary, 1.6 gallon toilets can usually be purchased in the $200 range, far less than the cost of a new sewer system. Baths and showers can use lots of water. "Setting up camp" in the shower with a shower head flow of 5 gallons per minute will require 100 gallons in 20 minutes. Shower heads that limit the flow to 1.5 or 2 gallons per minute are available and should be used. Filling the tub not quite so full and limiting the length of showers will result in appreciable water savings.


    -Is the water from the faucet cold enough to drink? How long do you let it run to cool down? Keep a container of drinking water in the refrigerator. Then it won't be necessary to run water from your faucets in order to get a cool drink.
    There may be other ways to conserve water that you can think of in your home. The main idea is to consider water as a valuable resource and not to waste it.
    Following a few simple rules like not using too much water and not depositing materials in the septic tank that bacteria can't decompose should help to make a septic system trouble-free for m, too! Any years. But don't forget the septic tank does need to be cleaned out when too many solids enter the system.
    With a water meter you can determine how much water your automatic washer uses per cycle. Many washers now have settings to reduce the amount of water used for small loads. Front loading washers and suds savers use less water than top loading machines. If your sewage treatment system is reaching its maximum capacity, try to spread the washing out during the week to avoid overloading the sewage system on a single day. Septic tanks need tender, loving care too. Good luck and thank you for rating my answer, Tom
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    Dec 8, 2010, 09:54 AM
    I, too, was contacted by Septic Savior and was asked if I had heard about or seen any of the five national reports on the 1.2 million septic systems that have failed in the last 18 months, 380,000 Septic Savor customers (of which I am one). He told me he was a Senior Vice President of Septic Savior and told me a very long story about how the government put an 8 year moritorium on harvesting trees for toilet paper in a conservation effort because of all of the wild fires in recent years.

    He said that the way manufacturers are currently producing "synthetic" toilet paper causes a "white, grease-like" substance to coat the walls of all the pipes (from the lateral pipes inside the house all the way to the leach bed).

    He sounded very well informed and professional and... since I am already a customer, he could save me $305 in government subsidy money.

    It sounded legitimate to me so I bought it.

    I am going to call them back right now and cancel my order.

    Kris in Maine
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    #25

    Dec 8, 2010, 04:17 PM

    Hey Kris,
    I am going to call them back right now and cancel my order.
    Smart move! There will always be scammers out there, all you have to do is recognize them.
    Good luck, Tom
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    Jan 8, 2011, 01:37 PM
    Thank you all.. They called me this morning and I have some minor issues so was very interest. Then he kept asking for my credit card number. I asked for time to research and I just saved 200 dollars
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    #27

    Mar 1, 2011, 08:20 AM
    I just received a call this morning with the same sales pitch. When he was finiish I asked him if he could direct me on the internet to the site that discloses the information he was giving me. I was online at the time and I tried searches as he directed and found nothing. I told him I would do nothing until I could read some info on the subject. He quoted my address and said he would send info and he hung up real fast
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    Mar 1, 2011, 09:51 AM

    I just sold some timber, so I guarantee there is no moratorium on selling timber. It's amazing how these guys will lie.
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    #29

    May 10, 2011, 10:03 AM
    I use it GReat product never have to pump system saved $$$ in repairs
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    #30

    May 10, 2011, 10:06 AM
    I use septic savior never have to have system pumped out and saved $$$ great product
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    #31

    Jul 3, 2011, 07:12 AM
    Robin GRT is nothing more than DAWN dishsoap septic savior is a SCAM DONOT EVER BUY THEIR PRODUCTS THEY ARE SCUMBAGS
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    #32

    Aug 31, 2011, 07:50 AM
    Yup! With the economy weak like it is these sales people are coming out of the woodwork. Let me tell you of our experience with the Septic Savior people. A year ago we received a phone call asking us to purchase their product to prevent septic failure. Our daughter owns the house so we called her and she bought a 5 year supply of treatment. Monday. Aug 28,2011, we had another call from them. Seems that "18 months ago the government", blah blah. Same spiel about Mad Cow disease that others on this site have mentioned. This is the pitch that followed. "Hello mrs. -- my name is ... I'm the District Manager calling directly from the Septic Savior plant." He went on to tell me, "The cost of this new additive retails at $399.99 but the Govt is allowing a $35 rebate. We feel thats not enough so we are knocking off another $75 dollars. You have to act now however because next week we will be going public with our product and the product will only be available through the retail stores at $399.99.after this week."
    When I told him our daughter owns the house and she is the one who purchased the 5 year supply of Septic Savior last year, he would have to talk to her. He said, "I'm only allowed one phone call per customer and this is my one phone call. Can you call her on a three way and I can talk with her that way?" I told him I didn't know how to do that with my phone he would have to call her himself. Once again he told me he was only allowed one call. Then he said if I would call her and give the information he would call me back. WHAT? HUH? Didn't he just say he couldn't do that? Okay just another million dollar scam! He did however give me an 800 number with an extension. I never tried it but I wonder... hmm.. was that also a scam?
    Hang onto your money folks and listen the guys who know about Septic tanks and how to care for them.
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    #33

    Aug 31, 2011, 08:17 AM
    Thanks JJ,
    You just backed up what I've been telling people for years. This scam works on fear and hype. Fear that your septic system will fail costing you big$ unless you purchase our product and hype that if you don't buy it right now it will cost you more in the future. ALL SCAMS! I'm sorry you learned too late. Tom
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    #34

    Aug 31, 2011, 08:48 AM
    Well said, JJWilcox... Thanks for your post... Milo
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    #35

    Sep 5, 2011, 07:01 AM
    Did the "Septic Savior" company send a tech out to check your situation or was it all done over the phone? Wet spots usually indicate a drain field that's not percolating the liquid back into the soil.
    I think that you're the only one that shelled out cash to these people tat came away happy and we thank you for your input. Tom PS.
    My! But you've a busy little bee haven't you. I see you're using the same post to advertise this product under a different handle, (Charles ) http://www.trustlink.org/Reviews/Sep...-LLC-206026522
    While you're heaping praises on this product most of the others complain about the high powered phone tactics selling years of treatment to elderly folks, one who was in a rest home when she purchased this stuff.
    Come on Charley, fess up! You've been busted! You really work for this company don't you and this is simply another scam like all the rest? And that makes you a troll
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    #36

    Sep 5, 2011, 08:45 AM
    In my opinion, it is a total SCAM!! I was originally contacted with this same "pitch" over 3 years ago, bought a supply of the "great product" and began using it. Less than 6 months later, I was again contacted by salespersons from Septic Savior informaing me that hterte had recently been changes in the Federal Regulations restricting the use of animal fats in soaps, etc. The bottom line was that they had a new and improved product that would replace the one that I still had in abundance. Would they give me credit for the unused product? NO WAY! I have received a call from them about every 6 months for the last three years with the same B.S. trying to sell me their new and improved product.
    For those who believe this to be a necessary and great product, how long have you worked for Septic Savior? I have done research on this issue and have gfound that the natural micro-organisms that thrive in the normal waste water are ususually all that is needed for the maintenance of a healthy septic system. If you are putting a lot of solids into the septic tank, then it will have to be pumped on a regualr basis. It should be pumped anyway.
    Oh, one of the individuals whom I contacted is the individual who invented several biodegradeable products for commercial use (I used several of them in my occupation before I retired), and he felt that there was no need for septic tank additives if a system was properly maintained -- as he said, If there was this great problem, he would certainly have spent the time and money to develop a product to correct the problem.
    Have a nice day. Joe
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    #37

    Sep 6, 2011, 10:35 AM
    Septic Savior is the worst kind of scam because it targets the elderly.
    Once you've bought their product they're like a Pit Bull. They never let you go. Septic Savior is a scam that employs telemarketeers If you get a call, hang up fast. Regards, Tom

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