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Old Nov 16, 2006, 09:56 PM
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p-trap GAP - p-trap too low to meet sink drain extension

I just took an old crane drexel sink off the wall and replaced it for the time being ( I want to fix the older sink) with a cheap vanity/sink set. All that was easy enough, but now to my chagrin I can't finish the job.

The p trap is too low, the extension pipe from the sink doesn't go all the way down to fit into it. I can line it up no problem, but the two parts don't meet, and so there is no working basin.

Is there such a thing as an extension for the extension? As in, a little tube that will make the drain pipe that came with the sink a bit longer, so I can fit it into the p-trap?

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Old Nov 17, 2006, 03:18 AM   #2  
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They make them. Look in the section where the P-traps are. Also consider buying a new tail piece and cutting it to length. Just remember all the new parts will be labeled by their ID.
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They make them. Look in the section where the P-traps are. Also consider buying a new tail piece and cutting it to length. Just remember all the new parts will be labeled by their ID.

Thanks for replying. I hope they have one I can add on. The pop up of the faucet I bought came with the pvc tail piece and the pop-up works with that tail piece. A new brass one I presume would not?

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labman agrees: Your are right, I forgot about the pop up. .
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Old Nov 17, 2006, 07:40 AM   #4  
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Hi Sarah,

The origional tailpiece that came with your lavatory, (kitchens have sinks, bathrooms have lavatorys) should be threaded into a fitting that contains the pop-up. They make a extension tailpiece,(see image) that is double threaded and designed to be cut to length. Simply measure the distance between the fitting and the trap and cut with a set of tubing cutters. Wrap the threads with a few turns of teflon tape and replace the old tailpiece. Good luck, Tom
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Hi Sarah,

The origional tailpiece that came with your lavatory, (kitchens have sinks, bathrooms have lavatorys) should be threaded into a fitting that contains the pop-up. They make a extension tailpiece,(see image) that is double threaded and designed to be cut to length. Simply measure the distance between the fitting and the trap and cut with a set of tubing cutters. Wrap the threads with a few turns of teflon tape and replace the old tailpiece. Good luck, Tom

The new faucet came with a PVC tube that screws onto a bit of tube coming from the sink.
My grasp of the plumbing lexicon leaves a little to be desired, but I thought that pvc tube with the pop-up on it was the "tailpiece." However there is a bit of pipe sticking down from the sink that the bit of PVC piping with the pop-up tingie screws onto. That would be a one-piece bit that has the flange on it, and on the ends are screw-threads.

WHIch part do I replace, and how do I keep the pop-up part?
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Old Nov 17, 2006, 04:05 PM   #6  
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You do not need to replace the tailpiece.

Some assumptions first:
I assume that the tailpiece off of the popup is 1 1/4". I also will assume that the P trap is 1 1/4". If that is the case, measure the distance from the popup to the P trap. Make sure that when you measure at the P trap that you include the portion that the extension will fit down inside the P trap. With that measurement, go to your local hardware store and ask for a tailpiece extension. You normally will be given the choice of white PVC or chromed tube. Make sure the diameter of the pipe is what you need (either 1 1/4 or 1 1/2 pipe).

Hope this helps.
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"You do not need to replace the tailpiece. " Not the best advice to give someone with too short a tailpiece. What you have suggested is a tailpiece extension, (see image) with a compression fitting. While this would work you have just gave the asker one one unnecessary compression fitting that could develop a leak. While they are both tailpiece extensions I've always worked on the theory that the less connections the better. And you are correct lavatories are 1 1/4 inch not 1 1/2inch.

Sarah, The piece that was too short to reach the trap is the tailpiece. If the PVC pipe that was too short has threads then use the tailpiece I put up first.
If the PVC tailpiece is a part of the pop-up then you will nee the one I have pictured here. Good luck, Tom
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Yay, my sink is installed.

The PVC tailpiece is part of the pop-up. I found one of Tom's gizmodo's above ( the chrome extension that looks as though it has a slip-nut at the top).

It needed cutting to fit the gap. I took it back to the hardware store to look for the right pipe-cutter, even though I had a hacksaw, because I didn't want to mess it up.

This time I went to the Ace corner hardware store ( not a big box store) because I was in a hurry. They did not have the right size pipe-cutter to cut my 1 1/4 lavatory pipe, but the "store man" put it in a vise and cut it with a hacksaw for me. He did about a crap a job as I would have, but at least the crazy cutting wasn't MY crazy cutting. And it worked fine.

Only, the older slipnuts on the p-trap leaked, and I had to go back and get one new one and one new slipnut washer . Ouila! a working sink.

Now to figure out how to get some parts off that original crane-drexel integral faucet sink!
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I am disappointed in the Ace hardware. They are franchises or maybe a buyers' group, an likely vary with the owner. Fittings like that will stand a lot of bad workmanship as long as they are clean and have a new gasket.

One advantage of the extension is that you can just remove it if and when you ever have the old sink ready to go.
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Hi Sarah,
"Now to figure out how to get some parts off that original crane-drexel integral faucet sink!"
Is this the sink you're attempting to dismantle?
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