Moen shower valve--replaced cartridge, still no hot water

What are the terms of your rental agreement? The only ones I have ever seen had free repair and maintainence, whats yours?

First off, Is your shower valve repaired and working? I wasn't aware that you could rent a hot water heater, How much are they an month? Can you rent to own? I am assuming you own this house so why would you rent a water heater? Sotta like renting a toilet, Cheers, Tom

Hi Jeking

Please answer the questions these guys asked...wondering about the outcome with the shower valve??

Next, please tell us the monthly cost associated with the rental of the water heater. Can the rental price increase over time? Can you tell us the average cost of a water heater installation in your area? If not, call a local plumber and ask. Also, what kind of water heater...gas/electric/power vented, etc.? Finally, as Ballengerb1 (Bob) asked, is the maintenance/repair/replacement/labor costs included with future issues?

Let us know, OK?

Mark

Since the hot water tank broke, I can not work on the Moen shower valve yet. Thanks for asking.

It is a 50 Gals, 80,000 BTU Gas Power Vent Hot Water Tank. The tank is 11 years old. I rent it for Cad $37.46 monthly. I got a Cad $1.16 increase last year. Parts and labor is inclusive. Since the tank broke now, I thought I will just buy and have it installed instead of continously renting.

In the long run you would be better off to buy. However, if parts and labor why no have it fixed? One years rent pays for a heater but not the labor, why did you ever start renting?

It is the usual practice here in Canada. I just continued renting when I purchased the house. The rent increases regularly. Calculating, renting for 2 or 3 years will actually cover the cost of the tank. Also, for a new tank, the warranty is for 6 years. So, the tank is covered on parts for 6 yrs. I think owning the hot water tank is wise enough.

Just some thoughts.

Examine the warranty closely. I think you will find that only the tank is covered after about 90 or 120 days. However, parts and repair of other components is not expensive. While the tank may be warranted for only 6, 8 or 10 years the usual life expectancy is much longer. I don't think I have ever had one that didn't last 20 years. The one in my mother's house, that was sold about 5 years ago, was over 50 years old.

My expectation is for a new water heater to last 20 years, It may not happen but that is my expectation.

There are only about four manufactures of water heaters in the US and Canada. It is my belief that they are all the same. When you buy the 10 year rather than the 6 year you are only buying the warranty on the tank . The water heater is the same, and by that I mean physically the same product.

Therefore, I say buy the cheapest one possible. Swing by the local plumbing supply house, ask if they have any scratched or dented ones. Might be worth as much as a couple hundred savings.

I like Harolds thinking. I see water heaters like Bic disposable lighters. I can swap one out in an hour so I go cheap.

The technician just completed the removal and replacement of the rented hot water tank. The tank is not cheap because our furnace uses hot water in heating the house, the hot water tank must be power vented and adapted for hydro furnace. Also, the vent pipe was changed according to code. I paid $2,825.00 for the tank and labor plus they will return the rented tank to Reliance. It took more than 3 hours. Thank God it's completed. We waited for the technician till 3:00 PM. He had to finish another job before us. We can't use water since 12:00 midnight. I had to shut the main water valve because the valve going to the hot water tank is leaking and continuous water is going into the tank which in turn leaks and causes flooding in the bedroom and around the water tank. It's bad enough without hot water but what more not able to use water at all. It's really a bad experience for us all. Well, tomorrow it's back to the Moen shower valve.

Thanks a lot Guys for all the feedback.

Is this board only for Plumbing queries ?

Yep! This is the place to get plumbing answers. Thanks for your update. Good luck, Tom